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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9084412" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>Then it would be really nice if one side of this argument would finally agree to stop invoking bad-faith players.</p><p></p><p>I am <em>perfectly happy</em> to speak only of people who game in good faith. Delighted, even. I have yet to see a single person on the other side actually commit to avoiding such things. In fact, in just the previous page, we had someone bring up how thoughtless and inconsiderate players "frequently" are.</p><p></p><p>Right here and now, I am happy to vow to you: I won't refer, even obliquely, to bad-faith GMing. I won't go back and cite any previous posts, not even obliquely. I won't make <em>any</em> argument in that direction--and if you feel I have, I will even give you one free "nope, sorry, can't do that" callout just to make sure my own biases about this sort of thing don't betray me. No questions, no challenges--it's fully <em>your</em> decision to make that callout, and if you do make it, I will concede, regardless of what I think about the subject.</p><p></p><p>But--because you knew there would be a "but"--I will only consider this oath valid as long as nobody in this thread makes an argument which hinges on bad-faith players. I won't consider any posts made on this page (so, posts 1001-1020), just in case something leaks through early, nor any prior posts.</p><p></p><p>So long as people are willing to uphold that truce, you have my word. It may not mean much to you, but it certainly means something to me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9084412, member: 6790260"] Then it would be really nice if one side of this argument would finally agree to stop invoking bad-faith players. I am [I]perfectly happy[/I] to speak only of people who game in good faith. Delighted, even. I have yet to see a single person on the other side actually commit to avoiding such things. In fact, in just the previous page, we had someone bring up how thoughtless and inconsiderate players "frequently" are. Right here and now, I am happy to vow to you: I won't refer, even obliquely, to bad-faith GMing. I won't go back and cite any previous posts, not even obliquely. I won't make [I]any[/I] argument in that direction--and if you feel I have, I will even give you one free "nope, sorry, can't do that" callout just to make sure my own biases about this sort of thing don't betray me. No questions, no challenges--it's fully [I]your[/I] decision to make that callout, and if you do make it, I will concede, regardless of what I think about the subject. But--because you knew there would be a "but"--I will only consider this oath valid as long as nobody in this thread makes an argument which hinges on bad-faith players. I won't consider any posts made on this page (so, posts 1001-1020), just in case something leaks through early, nor any prior posts. So long as people are willing to uphold that truce, you have my word. It may not mean much to you, but it certainly means something to me. [/QUOTE]
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