Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
What is player agency to you?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 9085051" data-attributes="member: 6785785"><p>I mean it’s an obvious point and it doesn’t help the discussion. And it doesn’t address the original point. </p><p></p><p>We’ve all agreed that this is a subjective matter and if everyone is on the same page then there’s no issue. </p><p></p><p>And the social contract is only going to do so much. I donnt expect people will go line by line and ability by ability in the book and rubber stamp everything. I think most of the time, what’s written in the book is a good default expectation. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It’s nonsense because if a plane is lifeless, then why would the player as about eggs or what have you? If a plane is lifeless, I’d expect that to be immediately obvious. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No one’s saying always. But it’s a matter of why deny it? What is happening when the use of the ability is denied? </p><p></p><p></p><p>There are no other local nobles? No members of the duke’s household that can step in? No other noble available? It doesn’t have to be a specific noble. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh okay, my mistake because I thought you said stuff like…</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, stuff like that! </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don’t really think we’re disagreeing about motivations. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You just did it above. You just labeled it as “most logical”, but that’s an example of your idea (the one you deem logical) being given more importance than the player’s (the one you deem logical). </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And here you justify your choice to place your ideas ahead of other participants’.</p><p></p><p>Again, this is perfectly fine. It’s totally a valid and fun way to play.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I’m not fictionalizing anything. I’m describing what you’re doing based on your own words. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I am responding to what you are saying.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hawkeyefan, post: 9085051, member: 6785785"] I mean it’s an obvious point and it doesn’t help the discussion. And it doesn’t address the original point. We’ve all agreed that this is a subjective matter and if everyone is on the same page then there’s no issue. And the social contract is only going to do so much. I donnt expect people will go line by line and ability by ability in the book and rubber stamp everything. I think most of the time, what’s written in the book is a good default expectation. It’s nonsense because if a plane is lifeless, then why would the player as about eggs or what have you? If a plane is lifeless, I’d expect that to be immediately obvious. No one’s saying always. But it’s a matter of why deny it? What is happening when the use of the ability is denied? There are no other local nobles? No members of the duke’s household that can step in? No other noble available? It doesn’t have to be a specific noble. Oh okay, my mistake because I thought you said stuff like… Well, stuff like that! I don’t really think we’re disagreeing about motivations. You just did it above. You just labeled it as “most logical”, but that’s an example of your idea (the one you deem logical) being given more importance than the player’s (the one you deem logical). And here you justify your choice to place your ideas ahead of other participants’. Again, this is perfectly fine. It’s totally a valid and fun way to play. I’m not fictionalizing anything. I’m describing what you’re doing based on your own words. I am responding to what you are saying. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
What is player agency to you?
Top