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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 9085171" data-attributes="member: 23751">Then the solution simple.  If you(players and DMs) have failed to establish a social contract, nobody has the right to any expectations.  If you don't like it and the group/DM won't change, find a new group.  Because it's not obvious that it has never had life.  Or might have life that's not visible to the players.  Or...I've seen it more than once in this thread.Only the lord of the manor can invite people in unless he's delegated the responsibility.  There might be other local nobles, but they will be in other castles/manors in other places than this one.  [ATTACH=full]291644[/ATTACH]Man, a player doesn't even have to be involved for something to be rated the most logical.  There are often multiple ways something can go.  I'm fully capable of figuring out what is the most logical even if a player hasn't opined at all.  Further, just because a player stated something logical, doesn't mean that the player agrees that his logic is greater. And further yet! I have have more information than the player does, so he will often not be able to see what I see.At no time, though, is it about me wanting my ideas to be before player ideas.  Just doesn't happen.  I'm not that petty and competitive. So again, never ever in my life have I engaged in... "they want their decisions and ideas to matter more than anyone else's." when DMing.So what.  Still has nothing to do with the petty crap you're trying to attribute to me.  You can have 10 people engage in the same act and have 10 different motivations for that act.   You don't get to assign me a motivation.Nope! You're inventing fiction about my motives.  My words to not back up what you are falsely attributing to m.</blockquote>

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