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<blockquote data-quote="mamba" data-source="post: 9086407" data-attributes="member: 7034611"><p>yes, but that avoids having to answer my question, doesn’t it. I was asking that for a reason…</p><p> </p><p></p><p>it is irrelevant to whatever your answer to my question would be, but you managed to not answer it anyway</p><p></p><p>The question was specifically asked to answer one question and one question only: can the players decide that the rules they insist bind the DM (so the audience must be granted by the DM) be violated by the players if they wanted to (so they asked but still get no audience because they decided it makes no sense that they should, even if / when they did ask)?</p><p></p><p>And people perform a song and dance instead of simply saying ‘yes’ or ‘no’ <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>So let’s go back, the players ask in Buckingham Palace for an audience with the king. After doing so (and before getting an answer) one points out ‘we are in a different world, no one knows us, they won’t recognize our nobility and think we are just some crazy people’. The players discuss this idea and decide that yes, this is in fact a much more reasonable expectation.</p><p></p><p>So, given how the rule is written (no exceptions, they will be recognized), do they get their audience or not? In other words are they able to violate game rules while at the same time insisting that under no circumstances whatsoever the DM could.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mamba, post: 9086407, member: 7034611"] yes, but that avoids having to answer my question, doesn’t it. I was asking that for a reason… it is irrelevant to whatever your answer to my question would be, but you managed to not answer it anyway The question was specifically asked to answer one question and one question only: can the players decide that the rules they insist bind the DM (so the audience must be granted by the DM) be violated by the players if they wanted to (so they asked but still get no audience because they decided it makes no sense that they should, even if / when they did ask)? And people perform a song and dance instead of simply saying ‘yes’ or ‘no’ ;) So let’s go back, the players ask in Buckingham Palace for an audience with the king. After doing so (and before getting an answer) one points out ‘we are in a different world, no one knows us, they won’t recognize our nobility and think we are just some crazy people’. The players discuss this idea and decide that yes, this is in fact a much more reasonable expectation. So, given how the rule is written (no exceptions, they will be recognized), do they get their audience or not? In other words are they able to violate game rules while at the same time insisting that under no circumstances whatsoever the DM could. [/QUOTE]
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