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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 9087687" data-attributes="member: 23751">It's not so much the stake will change, but rather that there's no meaning to the choice that gets me to it. No matter what I'm going to see what's on the other side.  "Say yes or roll(often with fail forward)" will guarantee that. What I want is for my choice to matter as well as the stake to matter. One or the other mattering isn't good enough for me to have agency or much agency. For me to have full agency my choice needs to have meaning.  There needs to be a reason for me to try and pick a good choice over the first mediocre choice that springs to mind, and having the chance for a flat out "no that fails." does that.  I will discard options that I think will fail and try ones that I think can succeed.  There may be unknown things that cause those attempts to fail, but that's okay since those failures give me more information to go on and my guide my further good ideas to a better chance of success. The odds are very high that I will eventually succeed, but the adversity and chance for failure is what gives my choices meaning and me agency.  And there's a small chance that I will not figure it out and that's okay. Pure failure is part of the potential stakes of trying to get past the door.</blockquote>