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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gban007" data-source="post: 9091120" data-attributes="member: 56488">When I think on it further (always a dangerous thing), I can see there are two levels of player agency occurring, out of game and in game.The first, out of game, I see most people (Except perhaps the OP, and others in the forum that seem to feel 5e gives too much in game player agency) giving same amount - the players basically free to choose how much in game agency they want, and are happy to operate from there.For myself, as much as I seem to often end up posting in opposition to Oofta / Maxperson / Micah Sweet - the level of player agency they offer in game aligns with what I want as a player, I don't want any more agency than that, as puts feels requires more effort than I want to give.Interestingly, as a DM I want even less in game player agency, instead relying on prepared adventures, as makes my life easier, but as long as my players are happy to opt into playing those games, buying in to what is required there, I see no issue.Pemerton / Hawkeyefan want more in game player agency than I want, which is fine, just means I likely won't ever play the sort of games they want to play <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>