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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 9093520" data-attributes="member: 6795602">First of all, this is an absolutely great explanation for why giving the player a chance of success may not actually equate to giving him agency.  I mean it's absolutely masterful!So I want to offer this generalization.  If a player has no agency in a situation at all then changing the chances for success or failure will have no impact on agency.  I think that's 100% true.  I don't know if anyone would argue with that insight.But to me that's not exploring the really interesting case: suppose we are talking about a case where a player does have agency.  How does changing the chances for success change his agency?  I think everything I asked before is still applicable in this space and it's one i'd love to hear your thoughts on.Again, great explanation but also falls under the no agency category.  I think you are right to have broken the problem up along those lines - but I'd still love to hear your thoughts on things outside 'no agency to begin with' case.</blockquote>