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Message: <blockquote data-quote="bloodtide" data-source="post: 9093979" data-attributes="member: 6684958">Ok, but does this not cut into the all powerful Player Agency?If we "must" use the noble bit as you are stuck on it:The PCs wander into some location in the game.  The one Player says "I use my noble feature".  So the DM Must alter game reality and say "yes, player there is a noble for you to meet with.  All hail the rules".But ok...lets say there was a noble.  Well the feature is just "you get a meeting".  So if the DM makes an unfriendly noble, won't the player just whine and complain that the DM is not giving the Player Agency?I know I have said this before....and guess will say many more times:  I'm not talking about a rule X on page Y of game Z.  Ok...fine some games exist where everyone read and follows "the rules" on the page.  Look that is great.  And, ok....done.....moving on.So now in a generic RPG WITH NO RULES WHATSOEVER FOR "PLAYER AGENCY", a Player will STILL demand Player Agency.  D&D 5E has NO "other game player agency rules" AT ALL.  And YET, a player in a 5E game will whine and complain ABOUT having Player Agency....even though they are playing a game with NO "narrative/storytelling like rules".Though....oddly...ghost butt boy is not one complaining about "agency".I do love how you say there no "line or limits"....and then say there "are".  But, of course only ones YOU agree with.  And sure, if your with a group of people that think exactly like you in nearly every way.......it's great.  You think X, they all think X and everyone is happy.  But what happens when your personal "approved list" does not match with someone else's?  And it only get worse when one side is completely unreasonable....and this is very common.Right, "no one" has a veto......EXCEPT you with your PERFECT list.  So you can sit back and get EVERYTHING you want.....as it's on YOUR list.  But what about everyone else?  Why don't they get a say?  Why is YOUR list the only ONE WAY?Well, sure it works great if you have a group of people that all think nearly the exact same thing.  But it will only work for that small group of people.</blockquote>

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