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<blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 9098424" data-attributes="member: 6785785"><p>I haven't done that. I've intentionally kept my discussion here on 5e alone, except for perhaps a couple of comments about things others have said.</p><p></p><p>But no one else has offered examples of play of two contrasting styles and pointed out how they're different. I have done that at a basic level... I've talked about some D&D games I've played in versus others I've played in or run, and the differences there. [USER=42582]@pemerton[/USER] has provided several examples of play from multiple games.</p><p></p><p>Most others have compared their 5e game to ideas they have about other games, or hypotheticals about other games.</p><p></p><p>I'm asking anyone else to offer two actual examples and compare them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, this is very true.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There's still something lacking... and I don't say this to dismiss you, but it's simply true.</p><p></p><p>Look, I don't play GURPS. My experience with it was maybe two or three sessions decades ago. I have a very rudimentary knowledge of the game. That doesn't mean that I can't have any insights about it at all... but it doesn't make me as capable of discussing the ins and outs of the game as those who are very experienced with it. Why would I expect it to?</p><p></p><p>No one is being dismissive of what you say. It's actually being acknowledged. It's the strength of your claims that's being challenged.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, I've done nothing of the sort. As I said above, I've only been talking about 5e in my posts.</p><p></p><p>But very nice attempt to dismiss what I've been saying as off topic, while simultaneously complaining about being dismissed yourself.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I can't and wouldn't argue with that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hawkeyefan, post: 9098424, member: 6785785"] I haven't done that. I've intentionally kept my discussion here on 5e alone, except for perhaps a couple of comments about things others have said. But no one else has offered examples of play of two contrasting styles and pointed out how they're different. I have done that at a basic level... I've talked about some D&D games I've played in versus others I've played in or run, and the differences there. [USER=42582]@pemerton[/USER] has provided several examples of play from multiple games. Most others have compared their 5e game to ideas they have about other games, or hypotheticals about other games. I'm asking anyone else to offer two actual examples and compare them. Yes, this is very true. There's still something lacking... and I don't say this to dismiss you, but it's simply true. Look, I don't play GURPS. My experience with it was maybe two or three sessions decades ago. I have a very rudimentary knowledge of the game. That doesn't mean that I can't have any insights about it at all... but it doesn't make me as capable of discussing the ins and outs of the game as those who are very experienced with it. Why would I expect it to? No one is being dismissive of what you say. It's actually being acknowledged. It's the strength of your claims that's being challenged. No, I've done nothing of the sort. As I said above, I've only been talking about 5e in my posts. But very nice attempt to dismiss what I've been saying as off topic, while simultaneously complaining about being dismissed yourself. I can't and wouldn't argue with that. [/QUOTE]
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