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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 9101599" data-attributes="member: 6785785">No redefining is necessary. You’re stuck on comparing the agency of characters to that of people in the real world. But that’s not an apt comparison. Players are capable of making up things in and about the game world. We’re talking about the agency of the player. This is why treating the player and the character separately is key. Your refusal to do so is why you’re not getting what others are saying, as the quoted post shows. As a player of an RPG, the only agency you have is to author fiction. It’s everything you do as a player. “I go over there” and “I hit it with my axe” and every other action declaration you make is authoring fiction. When put that way, it’s hard not to see the line where agency ends for one group and continues for another. Again, this is a comparison of two different things. What your character can do in the game world and what you can do in the real world. It doesn’t help with understanding the agency players have when playing RPGs.</blockquote>