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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 9102030" data-attributes="member: 6795602">I think we will have to agree to disagree here.&nbsp; (Note: I'm not just blaming you either, I've done the same.&nbsp; I just don't want us to continue doing that).Okay, IMO this is going to go something like:Me:&nbsp; How did the matter of background features show there are degrees of agency.You:&nbsp; It was shown that DM's wouldn't give players the agency to use their background feature in certain circumstances.Me:&nbsp; It was shown that players still had agency despite not being able to use their background feature in certain circumstances.You:&nbsp; That's not trueMe:&nbsp; Yes it is.REPEAT!IMO, this is because instead of actually finishing a single part of the discussion we just jump to the next piece and before long we are stuck because neither of us have any common ground to use as a foundation to fall back on.Okay, would you accept anything?Okay.&nbsp; Let's find what common ground we have in this agency discussion?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 9102030, member: 6795602"] I think we will have to agree to disagree here. (Note: I'm not just blaming you either, I've done the same. I just don't want us to continue doing that). Okay, IMO this is going to go something like: Me: How did the matter of background features show there are degrees of agency. You: It was shown that DM's wouldn't give players the agency to use their background feature in certain circumstances. Me: It was shown that players still had agency despite not being able to use their background feature in certain circumstances. You: That's not true Me: Yes it is. REPEAT! IMO, this is because instead of actually finishing a single part of the discussion we just jump to the next piece and before long we are stuck because neither of us have any common ground to use as a foundation to fall back on. Okay, would you accept anything? Okay. Let's find what common ground we have in this agency discussion? [/QUOTE]

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