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<blockquote data-quote="bloodtide" data-source="post: 9109321" data-attributes="member: 6684958">I mention this Play Style Choice as it is VERY common.&nbsp; It's the default for the Fan or Buddy GM, and is the treat for all the GMs 'buying' their friends(Like the GM thinks &quot;Oh, If I do everything and anything Bill wants while I am GMing, then maybe he will ivnite me over his house to hang out at one of his cool parties.&quot;This is the basic foundation of classic RPGs in general: The game, being a reality simulation, simply can not ever even come close to rules for everything.&nbsp; The solution was simple: have one person be &quot;God&quot;.&nbsp; That one person, the GM, gets to decide EVERYTHING in and about the game.&nbsp; It's literately how the game works.&nbsp; But how does this other game your talking about work?&nbsp; An RPG where the player decides the impact of what their PC says or does?&nbsp; To me, that sounds like a DM less game......or even more simply: The player can just stay home and write their novel.&nbsp; If a player in a game...specifically a person playing a game from a single character point of view towards some in-game goal.....how can they EVER decide anything and be anyway neutral and objective?&nbsp; I guess a couple players that are saints could do it, but what about everyone else?&nbsp; Even in all those other games.....is there one that has the player produce an effect or result by themselves totally independent of the GM.&nbsp; Every example I've seen has the GM still 100% in control of the whole game.&nbsp; Unlike D&amp;D, the game has some vague rules for the GM to follow about 'agency'.&nbsp; But they are vague.&nbsp; So any GM can &quot;follow the rule(s)&quot; and still just do whatever they want.&nbsp; That is what vague rules do.&nbsp; Even if a player calls the GM out: &quot;I don't like the way you are following rule 23!&quot; how is that any different from in D&amp;D when a player says &quot;I don't like what you did&quot;?&nbsp; In both cases would not a GM just say &quot;you don't have to like it, but I say it happens.&quot; ?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="bloodtide, post: 9109321, member: 6684958"] I mention this [B]Play Style Choice [/B]as it is VERY common. It's the default for the Fan or Buddy GM, and is the treat for all the GMs 'buying' their friends(Like the GM thinks "Oh, If I do everything and anything Bill wants while I am GMing, then maybe he will ivnite me over his house to hang out at one of his cool parties." This is the basic foundation of classic RPGs in general: The game, being a reality simulation, simply can not ever even come close to rules for everything. The solution was simple: have one person be "God". That one person, the GM, gets to decide EVERYTHING in and about the game. It's literately how the game works. But how does this other game your talking about work? An RPG where the player decides the impact of what their PC says or does? To me, that sounds like a DM less game......or even more simply: The player can just stay home and write their novel. If a player in a game...specifically a person playing a game from a single character point of view towards some in-game goal.....how can they EVER decide anything and be anyway neutral and objective? I guess a couple players that are saints could do it, but what about everyone else? Even in all those other games.....is there one that has the player produce an effect or result by themselves totally independent of the GM. Every example I've seen has the GM still 100% in control of the whole game. Unlike D&D, the game has some vague rules for the GM to follow about 'agency'. But they are vague. So any GM can "follow the rule(s)" and still just do whatever they want. That is what vague rules do. Even if a player calls the GM out: "I don't like the way you are following rule 23!" how is that any different from in D&D when a player says "I don't like what you did"? In both cases would not a GM just say "you don't have to like it, but I say it happens." ? [/QUOTE]

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