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<blockquote data-quote="Cadence" data-source="post: 9109574" data-attributes="member: 6701124"><p>And this is the discussion I think we had before. I'm not sure what example I used then, but say we have: "An ogre who snuck into the keep steps out from behind the shed and advances on you." "Good, does it fall in the pit I dug their yesterday." It feels like this could be done in good faith in some set-ups, and could also be abused as an I win button by a player viewing it as getting to alter reality if they just use the right phrasing. </p><p></p><p>Leo in one of the Percy Jackson series has a magic belt pouch (iirc) that he can pull pretty much any mundane tool from. From a game play effect is that different than a character being able to say "oh, I put X in it yesterday" and being able to pull it out whenever they need that X? Did Mary Poppins really pack her carpet bag in advance? </p><p></p><p><Like I said, I'm pretty sure we've been down this road before, albeit with different particular examples, so no need to redo it here unless you really have a burning desire too. If we haven't, and I were the site admin with connections at google, I guess I could always go insert them in a thread somewhere and ask for an insta-crawl to hide my tracks. And yes I realize that's different for you because it would be changing your past - but as long as you don't have total perfect recall it should still fly with any of the other readers here who weren't intimately involved at the time.></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cadence, post: 9109574, member: 6701124"] And this is the discussion I think we had before. I'm not sure what example I used then, but say we have: "An ogre who snuck into the keep steps out from behind the shed and advances on you." "Good, does it fall in the pit I dug their yesterday." It feels like this could be done in good faith in some set-ups, and could also be abused as an I win button by a player viewing it as getting to alter reality if they just use the right phrasing. Leo in one of the Percy Jackson series has a magic belt pouch (iirc) that he can pull pretty much any mundane tool from. From a game play effect is that different than a character being able to say "oh, I put X in it yesterday" and being able to pull it out whenever they need that X? Did Mary Poppins really pack her carpet bag in advance? <Like I said, I'm pretty sure we've been down this road before, albeit with different particular examples, so no need to redo it here unless you really have a burning desire too. If we haven't, and I were the site admin with connections at google, I guess I could always go insert them in a thread somewhere and ask for an insta-crawl to hide my tracks. And yes I realize that's different for you because it would be changing your past - but as long as you don't have total perfect recall it should still fly with any of the other readers here who weren't intimately involved at the time.> [/QUOTE]
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