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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 9109926" data-attributes="member: 42582">I personally do not think that the mathematical discussions are very interesting. (I've said the same to [USER=6790260]@EzekielRaiden[/USER].)Whether or not the press in a society are a free press is obviously something that is multi-dimensional, in the sense that there are multiple relevant considerations which are not easily commensurable let alone straightforwardly cumulative. Yet it is possible to talk, with quite a degree of coherence, about the extent to which the press is free in (say) Australia compared to Russia compared to Saudi Arabia.If someone purported to produce a mathematical demonstration that when I play through a total railroad, but get to decide the accent my PC speaks in, I have as much agency over the shared fiction as in (say) my own experienced Burning Wheel play, then all that would show is that something is wrong with their maths. I don't need a mathematical theory to grasp the contrast between the two cases.Consider "An ogre who snuck into the keep steps out from behind the shed and advances on you," "Good, I draw my sword and cut its head off!" It feels like this could be done in good faith in some set-ups, and could also be abused as an I win button by a player viewing it as getting to alter reality if they just use the right phrasing.Now can we actually talk about the rules and play of actual games?</blockquote>