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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 9110877" data-attributes="member: 42582">Obviously one way to have a genuine rich story is for the GM to tell one. In this thread, [USER=71699]@clearstream[/USER] has been advocating the merits of "GM story hour" as set out by Eero Tuovinen here: <a href="https://www.arkenstonepublishing.net/isabout/2020/05/14/observations-on-gns-simulationism/" target="_blank">Observations on GNS Simulationism – Correspondence is about Diligence</a>Tuovinen correctly identifies DL as a classic example. Upthread I've talked about some of my own convention experiences with CoC story hours.But the only way to have a genuine rich story with high player agency is to use the techniques that were invented to do that. There are two main sets of techniques that I'm aware of: scene-framing type play (for me, that's Burning Wheel, 4e D&D, Prince Valiant , Marvel Heroic RP/Cortex+, Agon, and then classics like HeroWars/Quest, Sorcerer and DitV) and PbtA-style "if you do it, you do it" (that's how I approach Classic Traveller; the classic is obviously Apocalypse World).I've mentioned several times upthread running high agency AD&D. That was also a broadly "if you do it, you do it" approach; but as I said the system is quite rickety.</blockquote>