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<blockquote data-quote="bloodtide" data-source="post: 9117287" data-attributes="member: 6684958"><p>Sure, it's not a problem for the good players.</p><p></p><p>One player writes songs and poems, one makes (gnome) jokes and one likes to draw things.</p><p></p><p>Some good players write detailed back stories of 5-10 pages</p><p></p><p>But no, NEVER in my game has something like this happened: Player "My character wants some potions of healing. Lets say my character's brother is just walking down the path with 25 potions of healing for me." DM-"WOW! Ok...Roll your Circle Sike Check, DC 10. Player-"I got a 14!" DM-"Wow, wow! Suddenly you see your characters brother walking down the path RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU! He spots and says "here are 25 potions of healing, bro!"</p><p></p><p></p><p>As Ive said before the break down is 25% good, 25% bad and 50% average. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Sounds perfect to me.</p><p></p><p>Though I'd ask this right back at you. How is a player making all kinds of demands ANY DIFFERENT? The player hands the GM a huge block of text and says "this is my person player novel, make it happen servant GM!" and the GM says "Yes, player, we will play through your novel, just as you wish"</p><p></p><p>Oh, so you did some input years ago and don't feel you need to do any in modern times.</p><p></p><p>Well, I was just asking questions. As you did not answer, I now know the answer is : The Players.</p><p></p><p>Right, like I said...you, as your role as GM are deciding. Everything is decided by the players....you just act as their agent. </p><p></p><p>Maybe it's just your description of events. I mean all I see is "player wants X to happen". Player makes rules check. GM rolls out the red carpet and says "whatever you the player just said happens."</p><p></p><p>The only other thing I can see here is the hostile anti-GM rule.</p><p></p><p>In a D&D game, a player might 'just say' they keep an eye out for family members when then enter their home town. Then the all powerful DM, alone, decides if the character sees anyone and who in the family it is. The helpless, powerless player just sits there and waits.</p><p></p><p>Your version is the hostile anti-DM rule. The player says their character keeps and eye out, makes the check and then attacks the DM with it: "HA, I made my check, I have all the agency power! Now you MUST, By The Rules, have me encounter some of my family members...weather you want to or not! HAHAHA"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bloodtide, post: 9117287, member: 6684958"] Sure, it's not a problem for the good players. One player writes songs and poems, one makes (gnome) jokes and one likes to draw things. Some good players write detailed back stories of 5-10 pages But no, NEVER in my game has something like this happened: Player "My character wants some potions of healing. Lets say my character's brother is just walking down the path with 25 potions of healing for me." DM-"WOW! Ok...Roll your Circle Sike Check, DC 10. Player-"I got a 14!" DM-"Wow, wow! Suddenly you see your characters brother walking down the path RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU! He spots and says "here are 25 potions of healing, bro!" As Ive said before the break down is 25% good, 25% bad and 50% average. Sounds perfect to me. Though I'd ask this right back at you. How is a player making all kinds of demands ANY DIFFERENT? The player hands the GM a huge block of text and says "this is my person player novel, make it happen servant GM!" and the GM says "Yes, player, we will play through your novel, just as you wish" Oh, so you did some input years ago and don't feel you need to do any in modern times. Well, I was just asking questions. As you did not answer, I now know the answer is : The Players. Right, like I said...you, as your role as GM are deciding. Everything is decided by the players....you just act as their agent. Maybe it's just your description of events. I mean all I see is "player wants X to happen". Player makes rules check. GM rolls out the red carpet and says "whatever you the player just said happens." The only other thing I can see here is the hostile anti-GM rule. In a D&D game, a player might 'just say' they keep an eye out for family members when then enter their home town. Then the all powerful DM, alone, decides if the character sees anyone and who in the family it is. The helpless, powerless player just sits there and waits. Your version is the hostile anti-DM rule. The player says their character keeps and eye out, makes the check and then attacks the DM with it: "HA, I made my check, I have all the agency power! Now you MUST, By The Rules, have me encounter some of my family members...weather you want to or not! HAHAHA" [/QUOTE]
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