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<blockquote data-quote="bloodtide" data-source="post: 9117669" data-attributes="member: 6684958"><p>Ok, peace by peace, using your exact quotes: the player wishes to 'just' find a family member right where the character is. This is the 'request'.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Player makes a check and succeeds.</p><p></p><p>GM does what the player requested. In this case alters reality to say "yup your brother is right there" when the player asked for a family member to be there.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Well....that is not how combat in D&D works as it's not that simple. It's quite rare for any combat in D&D to end with one roll in one round...but it could happen. But there is a whole chapter on combat and all sorts of combat rules. It's not just One Roll to Win.</p><p></p><p></p><p>But your example of 'shaping the fiction' is just telling the GM to do what you want.</p><p></p><p>And I say...well if the player can 'shape the fiction' then why can't they just 'shape' it and say 'wish for a pile of gold'. Then, you say, oh the players can only shape teeny tiny little bits of the fiction once in a while. And still has to make a check to do anything. So...this goes right back to sounding like no agency.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Guess this depends what your asking?</p><p></p><p>Like I just ran (three) dragon slaying adventures....and when the players characters killed the dragon I count that as "a contribution''. </p><p></p><p>If your asking do I ever have a player say "I wish my character could find a treasure chest under the nearby oak tree with a billion gold coins" Then I say "oh, under the nearby oak tree you find a treasure chest with a billion gold coins!" Then, no, that never happens in my game.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The example given, at it's basic was:</p><p></p><p>1.Player makes a 'request'</p><p>2.Player makes a successful rules check</p><p>3GM does whatever the player requested</p><p></p><p>So what am I missing?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bloodtide, post: 9117669, member: 6684958"] Ok, peace by peace, using your exact quotes: the player wishes to 'just' find a family member right where the character is. This is the 'request'. Player makes a check and succeeds. GM does what the player requested. In this case alters reality to say "yup your brother is right there" when the player asked for a family member to be there. Well....that is not how combat in D&D works as it's not that simple. It's quite rare for any combat in D&D to end with one roll in one round...but it could happen. But there is a whole chapter on combat and all sorts of combat rules. It's not just One Roll to Win. But your example of 'shaping the fiction' is just telling the GM to do what you want. And I say...well if the player can 'shape the fiction' then why can't they just 'shape' it and say 'wish for a pile of gold'. Then, you say, oh the players can only shape teeny tiny little bits of the fiction once in a while. And still has to make a check to do anything. So...this goes right back to sounding like no agency. Guess this depends what your asking? Like I just ran (three) dragon slaying adventures....and when the players characters killed the dragon I count that as "a contribution''. If your asking do I ever have a player say "I wish my character could find a treasure chest under the nearby oak tree with a billion gold coins" Then I say "oh, under the nearby oak tree you find a treasure chest with a billion gold coins!" Then, no, that never happens in my game. The example given, at it's basic was: 1.Player makes a 'request' 2.Player makes a successful rules check 3GM does whatever the player requested So what am I missing? [/QUOTE]
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