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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 9123899" data-attributes="member: 42582">The use of "agency" in the context of game play has little to do with philosophy, and in particular has little to do with the philosophy of intentional action.It is borrowed from the use of the notion in sociology, as was discussed at some length upthread, inter alia by me and [USER=16586]@Campbell[/USER].Just as one can talk about high and low agency social roles, or areas of life in which a person does or doesn't enjoy a high degree of agency, so one can talk about the degree of agency a player enjoys in a game.I mean, you may not want to have that conversation, but it's the one that I'm contributing to. For the reasons I posted upthread, it sheds little light on the analysis of game play to notice that it is mostly undertaken voluntarily and for reasons.How does this example shed any light on RPGing? What, in RPGing, do you take to be the equivalent to using a club under certain restrictions to move a ball into a small hole?It's fog and sophistry, and nothing more.</blockquote>