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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Korgoth" data-source="post: 4786122" data-attributes="member: 49613">4th -5th level.3-4 hours.1-2FOREVER...? An hour and a half?4 players.Varies. It wasn't very much or very long.Yes.The DM didn't use minions.I don't play 4E anymore... I quit because the sessions were like slow-motion trips to the dentist.Now, before anyone discriminates against me by saying that a 35-year old can't learn new rules, I learn new wargames all the time. I'm good with rules. I just don't like a ton of rules in my role playing anymore than I want a ton of dill pickles in my chocolate ice cream.4E feels like a tactical wargame to me. The problem with that is, there are some excellent tactical wargames out there, like Field of Glory from Osprey. If we're just going to be pushing pieces around a board and talking about hitting and damage, I'd rather be refighting Asculum or Kynoskephaloi.</blockquote>