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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 8857520" data-attributes="member: 67338">hey look at that... a split, just like an edition change. pretending that people that disagree with you 'just don't understand' is a weak argument.if they were satisficed why all the changes?they can change the terms all they want (although I bet it wont stick anyway) but you need a term for the new version and one for the old version (notice I avoided the word edition) and right now that is 5e vs 1D&amp;D. that;s great... that is what they wanted in 2000 with the d20 systemthat is what they wanted with a 'new but still the same' 4eand they actually SAID they wanted that in 2014 with 5e.but here we are 8 years after 2014 5e came out and we are testing 1D&amp;D. I don't think they lied, I think they wanted to make it just D&amp;D each of those times (maybe an argument can be made that in 2000 they already had a .5 in mind).&nbsp; but they will not be the same people in power for ever, and sooner or later there will be new ideas and sales will look like they could use a boost, and a New D&amp;D will form... now maybe they call it 2D&amp;D, or D&amp;D Eternal, or 7e, or 17e (an argument can be made that is close to right) or maybe something we can't imagine today...Either way at some point there will be a new D&amp;D PHB and there will be a way to identify it against 5e, 4e, 3.5, 3e and even 1D&amp;D ect.that is just a new edition by a diffrent term... if the new PHB is new rules, new ways to do classes new concept like daze and how feats work... then what ever term you use it is a split. It is a start point for some and an end point for others. Why not just call it what we have called it since the 90;s?but notice D&amp;D is STILL chucking Bard, CLeric, Ranger, feats, races, backgrounds ect ect ect...then why make large sweeping changes in 2024?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 8857520, member: 67338"] hey look at that... a split, just like an edition change. pretending that people that disagree with you 'just don't understand' is a weak argument. if they were satisficed why all the changes? they can change the terms all they want (although I bet it wont stick anyway) but you need a term for the new version and one for the old version (notice I avoided the word edition) and right now that is 5e vs 1D&D. that;s great... that is what they wanted in 2000 with the d20 system that is what they wanted with a 'new but still the same' 4e and they actually SAID they wanted that in 2014 with 5e. but here we are 8 years after 2014 5e came out and we are testing 1D&D. I don't think they lied, I think they wanted to make it just D&D each of those times (maybe an argument can be made that in 2000 they already had a .5 in mind). but they will not be the same people in power for ever, and sooner or later there will be new ideas and sales will look like they could use a boost, and a New D&D will form... now maybe they call it 2D&D, or D&D Eternal, or 7e, or 17e (an argument can be made that is close to right) or maybe something we can't imagine today... Either way at some point there will be a new D&D PHB and there will be a way to identify it against 5e, 4e, 3.5, 3e and even 1D&D ect. that is just a new edition by a diffrent term... if the new PHB is new rules, new ways to do classes new concept like daze and how feats work... then what ever term you use it is a split. It is a start point for some and an end point for others. Why not just call it what we have called it since the 90;s? but notice D&D is STILL chucking Bard, CLeric, Ranger, feats, races, backgrounds ect ect ect... then why make large sweeping changes in 2024? [/QUOTE]

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