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<blockquote data-quote="paradox42" data-source="post: 3398042" data-attributes="member: 29746">Starwed is correct. When speaking of whether Large is worth any sort of LA in races, one must take into account the fact that just plain being Large carries no inherent change to ability scores or natural armor. If you want to add the ability score changes and natural armor increase that are used when advancing monsters, well that's your choice, but those aren't inherently a part of being the larger size.The big thing that WotC considers valuable with the larger size, and the reason they've refused to publish any genuinely Large-sized PC races, is the Reach. Powerful Build is really just the size without the Reach, and without the size penalties. IMO, Powerful Build is a rather lame cop-out, and in my own games I always chuck it out the window for any race that has it and just make the race size Large. I've never had problems in-game, doing this, since races with Powerful Build have LAs anyway. As a DM I can make the penalties to Hide, AC and basic to-hit worth the Reach with little trouble (hint: use frequent ranged attacks, and particularly ranged touch attacks).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="paradox42, post: 3398042, member: 29746"] Starwed is correct. When speaking of whether Large is worth any sort of LA in races, one must take into account the fact that just plain being Large carries [b]no inherent change[/b] to ability scores or natural armor. If you want to add the ability score changes and natural armor increase that are used when advancing monsters, well that's your choice, but those aren't inherently a part of being the larger size. The big thing that WotC considers valuable with the larger size, and the reason they've refused to publish any genuinely Large-sized PC races, is the Reach. Powerful Build is really just the size without the Reach, and without the size penalties. IMO, Powerful Build is a rather lame cop-out, and in my own games I always chuck it out the window for any race that has it and just make the race size Large. I've never had problems in-game, doing this, since races with Powerful Build have LAs anyway. As a DM I can make the penalties to Hide, AC and basic to-hit worth the Reach with little trouble (hint: use frequent ranged attacks, and particularly ranged [b]touch[/b] attacks). [/QUOTE]

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