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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 8641613" data-attributes="member: 177">Well, there are a few things we can talk about that differentiate &quot;quality&quot; from &quot;meeting financial targets&quot;.The first we might address is the McDonald's Phenomenon.&nbsp; McDonald's food sells well.&nbsp; But, it isn't healthy to eat frequently, and its nutrition content per calorie isn't high.&nbsp; It has carefully tuned (and high) levels of salt, fats, and sugars to entice the human hindbrain, but it you are looking for flavor beyond that, it doesn't have much going for it. McDonalds food does have qualities we can say are, in some way, positive - it is inexpensive, it is highly available, and it is pretty consistent across most of the USA.&nbsp; So does the massive revenue of McDonald's indicate they make &quot;quality food&quot;?&nbsp; Or is it &quot;food with some sellable qualities&quot;?Then, we can talk about quality in other aspects.&nbsp; We can talk about cars - cars that go fast, are super popular, that people drool over, and sell well for their price category, but spend lots of time in the shop for maintenance or repairs.&nbsp; How &quot;quality&quot; is that car, compared to, say, a really reliable, efficient, but not very sexy Prius?&nbsp; That depends on what matters to you.I submit that saying a product is, or is not, a &quot;quality game&quot; is not particularly meaningful until you talk about what qualities matter to you.&nbsp; Otherwise, it is too general except as a very broad statement of acceptance or rejection.As for whether sales are quality... they are not a direct indicator of any particular quality you may care about.&nbsp; But high sales don't happen for zero reason either - so there's an indirect indication of something there.&nbsp; For McDonalds, sales probably does indicate that it is inexpensive, quick and available, which may matter when you are on a long drive to a convention.So, overall - whether you are for or against a game, talking about &quot;Quality&quot; in a general sense probably isn't meaningful enough to bother with.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 8641613, member: 177"] Well, there are a few things we can talk about that differentiate "quality" from "meeting financial targets". The first we might address is the McDonald's Phenomenon. McDonald's food sells well. But, it isn't healthy to eat frequently, and its nutrition content per calorie isn't high. It has carefully tuned (and high) levels of salt, fats, and sugars to entice the human hindbrain, but it you are looking for flavor beyond that, it doesn't have much going for it. McDonalds food does have qualities we can say are, in some way, positive - it is inexpensive, it is highly available, and it is pretty consistent across most of the USA. So does the massive revenue of McDonald's indicate they make "quality food"? Or is it "food with some sellable qualities"? Then, we can talk about quality in other aspects. We can talk about cars - cars that go fast, are super popular, that people drool over, and sell well for their price category, but spend lots of time in the shop for maintenance or repairs. How "quality" is that car, compared to, say, a really reliable, efficient, but not very sexy Prius? That depends on what matters to you. I submit that saying a product is, or is not, a "quality game" is not particularly meaningful until you talk about [I]what qualities matter to you[/I]. Otherwise, it is too general except as a very broad statement of acceptance or rejection. As for whether sales are quality... they are not a [I]direct indicator[/I] of any [I]particular quality[/I] you may care about. But high sales don't happen for zero reason either - so there's an indirect indication of [I]something[/I] there. For McDonalds, sales probably does indicate that it is inexpensive, quick and available, which may matter when you are on a long drive to a convention. So, overall - whether you are for or against a game, talking about "Quality" in a general sense probably isn't meaningful enough to bother with. [/QUOTE]

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