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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8642532" data-attributes="member: 18">But that's not what's happening, is it?It's someone being low-level dishonest in their discussion. They say something is fine as-is, then later they admit they don't use it is as is. That's dishonest in any situation. It's like if I say &quot;[Clothing brand] doesn't cut its jackets for the wider man&quot; and you say &quot;I'm wide and I wear them just fine, you're wrong!&quot; and then it turns out, actually, you get them altered by your tailor, and they don't fit otherwise. All you're doing is misleading people and drawing out a discussion.And being unhelpful on purpose, rather than disagreeing in a honest and however forthright and direct way is, um, crap? Really crap? Totally crap? Rubbish? It's certainly not &quot;rebutting an opinion&quot; to be unhelpful in that way, it's just feeding your own ego and wasting everyone's time. Like the weird vignette you made. That's not how people talk or act, it's not even a good satire on it. It's a self-vignette that I'm sure pleased you to write but that does not increase understanding or benefit anyone but you. I guess I just don't have a lot of time for people who think playing games with what they actually believe or what they actually do is big and clever. If you don't use a rule as written, just come out and say that, don't dance around the point claiming the rule is fine and then later admit you don't actually use it that way.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8642532, member: 18"] But that's not what's happening, is it? It's someone being low-level dishonest in their discussion. They say something is fine as-is, then later they admit they don't use it is as is. That's dishonest in any situation. It's like if I say "[Clothing brand] doesn't cut its jackets for the wider man" and you say "I'm wide and I wear them just fine, you're wrong!" and then it turns out, actually, you get them altered by your tailor, and they don't fit otherwise. All you're doing is misleading people and drawing out a discussion. And being unhelpful on purpose, rather than disagreeing in a honest and however forthright and direct way is, um, crap? Really crap? Totally crap? Rubbish? It's certainly not "rebutting an opinion" to be unhelpful in that way, it's just feeding your own ego and wasting everyone's time. Like the weird vignette you made. That's not how people talk or act, it's not even a good satire on it. It's a self-vignette that I'm sure pleased you to write but that does not increase understanding or benefit anyone but you. I guess I just don't have a lot of time for people who think playing games with what they actually believe or what they actually do is big and clever. If you don't use a rule as written, just come out and say that, don't dance around the point claiming the rule is fine and then later admit you don't actually use it that way. [/QUOTE]

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