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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 8643229" data-attributes="member: 67338">this is pretty much what the whole thread (beer, wine, movies aside) is about.&nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;If I assume that everyone is having the same experience as me, everything is fine...&quot; mixed with &quot;if it sells it works&quot;I was not around for 1e-2e but I have been told several changes were from popular house rules. I know through Con and Store play that around 1998 people playing 2e were talking about letting people increase stats at levels (and how the str % interacted with that). I also know that at least 1 DM as early as 1996 was having max hp at 1st level, and by 98-99 it was common.&nbsp; I even remember DMs talking about redoing stats so wizards could get bonus spells from INT like clerics did from Wis...NOBODY i knew or talked to was useing cha as a caster stat... BUT I did know people let wizard cast any spell they knew (aka partial sorcerer mechanic)4e and 5e were such HUGE changes I don't know if I could talk house rules really...so I pose a chicken/egg question. Did the mechanics come first (in popular house rules) or the edition?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 8643229, member: 67338"] this is pretty much what the whole thread (beer, wine, movies aside) is about. "If I assume that everyone is having the same experience as me, everything is fine..." mixed with "if it sells it works" I was not around for 1e-2e but I have been told several changes were from popular house rules. I know through Con and Store play that around 1998 people playing 2e were talking about letting people increase stats at levels (and how the str % interacted with that). I also know that at least 1 DM as early as 1996 was having max hp at 1st level, and by 98-99 it was common. I even remember DMs talking about redoing stats so wizards could get bonus spells from INT like clerics did from Wis... NOBODY i knew or talked to was useing cha as a caster stat... BUT I did know people let wizard cast any spell they knew (aka partial sorcerer mechanic) 4e and 5e were such HUGE changes I don't know if I could talk house rules really... so I pose a chicken/egg question. Did the mechanics come first (in popular house rules) or the edition? [/QUOTE]

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