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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8644722" data-attributes="member: 22779">This whole line of argument just grinds my gears.The idea that a 17 year old kid microwaving a hamburger tossing together from company demanded proportions and then wrapping it up (hopefully carefully) in a waxed paper sheet is of comparable quality to the hamburger that I could get from a master chef with hundreds of hours of training, thousands of hours of practical work experience using only the highest quality of ingredients is laughable.&nbsp; But it's this attitude that expertise and training counts for nothing and that that all judgements of quality are solely subjective, thus, all judgements of quality are equal is so prevalent.&nbsp; Are there subjective qualities to any judgment of quality?&nbsp; Of course there are.&nbsp; Which criteria you choose to judge will be partly subjective if nothing else.&nbsp; But, that doesn't make judgements of quality subjective, nor does it mean that all judgments are even remotely equal.The truly funny thing is about [USER=6801845]@Oofta[/USER]'s comparison of a Rolex and his Casio.&nbsp; If you read back, he mentions that the reason he thinks his Casio is better quality is because it lasted for 20 years and it has a stop watch function.&nbsp; Which basically tells us that he has absolutely no idea what functions come on a Rolex.&nbsp; Surprisingly enough, Rolex does make watches with every single function a Casio might have.&nbsp; Plus, it's got a time piece that will be keeping accurate time long after that Casio has died.&nbsp; But, because [USER=6801845]@Oofta[/USER] has never actually looked at a Rolex, his judgment is based entirely on his experience with a Casio.&nbsp; Any comparison runs into the brick wall of that experience.It's pretty much exactly how the discussion about RPG's goes as well.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 8644722, member: 22779"] This whole line of argument just grinds my gears. The idea that a 17 year old kid microwaving a hamburger tossing together from company demanded proportions and then wrapping it up (hopefully carefully) in a waxed paper sheet is of comparable quality to the hamburger that I could get from a master chef with hundreds of hours of training, thousands of hours of practical work experience using only the highest quality of ingredients is laughable. But it's this attitude that expertise and training counts for nothing and that that all judgements of quality are solely subjective, thus, all judgements of quality are equal is so prevalent. Are there subjective qualities to any judgment of quality? Of course there are. Which criteria you choose to judge will be partly subjective if nothing else. But, that doesn't make judgements of quality subjective, nor does it mean that all judgments are even remotely equal. The truly funny thing is about [USER=6801845]@Oofta[/USER]'s comparison of a Rolex and his Casio. If you read back, he mentions that the reason he thinks his Casio is better quality is because it lasted for 20 years and it has a stop watch function. Which basically tells us that he has absolutely no idea what functions come on a Rolex. Surprisingly enough, Rolex does make watches with every single function a Casio might have. Plus, it's got a time piece that will be keeping accurate time long after that Casio has died. But, because [USER=6801845]@Oofta[/USER] has never actually looked at a Rolex, his judgment is based entirely on his experience with a Casio. Any comparison runs into the brick wall of that experience. It's pretty much exactly how the discussion about RPG's goes as well. [/QUOTE]

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