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Message: <blockquote data-quote="LadyElect" data-source="post: 8644816" data-attributes="member: 7031965">I believe these can hold true.Without these following as the alternative.Engaging in thought exercises over the subjective nature of perception doesn’t necessitate the acceptance of all views due to that nature. Judgements can be born of ignorance or inexperience or, hell, even dishonesty. They can be measurably harmful and deserve their disavowal by the masses.And I certainly understand the view that engaging those exercises is unproductive or frustrating or abstracted to the point of uselessness in ordinary discourse. But anti-intellectual against the alternative of accepting agreement in lieu of true demonstrability? You’d have to take the fight back to Descartes to prevent that from popping up. And this:Only works for as long as you want to ostracize the very inevitable contention.</blockquote>