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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 8646932" data-attributes="member: 67338">this is another GREAT example I have from my real life (lets see if we can avoid the argument about my aunt and uncles difference in weather by reagin for a bit)when my niece and nephew were in a private k-5 the grading system was bonkers. they didn't get A,B,C.D.F like I was used to and there was no % number reported... the reason that was given when we asked was "we don't want the children to feel bad about comparing grades"    However it wasn't P/F either... it still had this graded system of E=Exemplary, S (capitol)= superior, M=meets expectations, s (lower case) satisfactory, D= doesn't meet expectations, N=needs additional resources, and X= not grasping concept...   so they made 7 new letter grades that all had a bit of shadowey meaning... but were still basically A+, A-, B, C, D (funny that is the same letter), and 2 different levels of F.do you know how I learned what they meant? when my nephew hit 3rd grade he let slip that the other kids and he found out how to translate into a basic % grade those letters...  and so my sister asked a teacher and she confirmed they were SUPER close... because the teachers were still grading as % then just transferring to this system.   so how did my neice and nephew do when they got an E that meant they got A+ a 96+, what about a S then they got  A- somewhere 89%-95%, if they got a M that was a B 78%-88%, if they got a s that would mean a C 66%-77%-, if they got a D that was stil more or less a D being a 55%-65%, if they got a N that was close to an F being 40%-54%. and the dreaded X that as far as I know no one in the school ever got was REALLY an F at less then 40%...But wait there's more. they didn't "need a D or more to pass" like what I would think of as school (and now both in HS is true) they need anything other then an X AND a corresponding remark... these remarks were SUPER crazy you could get the same set of words on an E or a D... and they changed or modified the grade... you could get ANYTHING OTHER THEN AN X and a "tries and works hard" and still pass... but you could get a M or lower and "Doesn't show/do work in class" and fail... I still don't get it. but there were 7 or 8 choices of words the teachers had to check 1 for each grade. so the question "Hey how is Joey doing in school" could be answered fully with "He got an 's' lower case, but a doesn't show work" and be 100% factually true... but it could also be said "He got somewhere between a D+ and a C+" and still be true but SUPER miss leading (since that sounds like he isn't failing) or you could say "He got about a 75% " can be technically true and STILL not express the info of 'how is he doing" because it obfuscates the fact that he failed...somehow.so both are in public HS now (in a better town) and doing great. But I have to say having % grades to look at makes it WAY easier to see how they are doing... BUT I also have to admit that Joe is lazy (not unlike me) and doesn't always do his homework and sometimes day dreams through class (again like me) so well he is on honor roll half the time I do wonder if the "Doesn't show/do work in class" would most likely still pop up like it did from 2nd grade on (lucky for him he was getting E and S grades so it didn't turn it into a failure)</blockquote>

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