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<blockquote data-quote="RenleyRenfield" data-source="post: 9852989" data-attributes="member: 7044197">Go back and re-read TwoSix post.&nbsp;&nbsp; And mine for that matter.&nbsp; As well you are making a non-valid dichotomy between situation and plot.What a person expects in freedom of choice will set their definition of 'railroad'.&nbsp; And your statement will get you into trouble and heartache with my players since they don't share your definition in any way.&nbsp; That is to say = what you are trying to force as a limited definition of railroad no longer is valid as the only way the majority of players will accept it.As TwoSix wrote, what limits choice will give a impression of 'this game is on rails&quot;.&nbsp;&nbsp; It does not matte if that limit came from plot, situation, rules, or player choice.And by a very very wide margin, if I told players that they have no choice but to deal with a situation, they would say &quot;this game is railroading me&quot;.&nbsp;&nbsp; (but that is not be a bad thing, so set aside your love hate for the term.&nbsp; I have players who only want to play 'railroad' games.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RenleyRenfield, post: 9852989, member: 7044197"] Go back and re-read TwoSix post. And mine for that matter. As well you are making a[B] non-valid dichotomy[/B] between situation and plot. What a person expects in freedom of choice will set their definition of 'railroad'. And your statement will get you into trouble and heartache with my players since they don't share your definition in any way. That is to say = what [B]you are trying to force as a limited definition of railroad no longer is valid[/B] as the only way the majority of players will accept it. As TwoSix wrote, [B]what limits choice will give a impression of 'this game is on rails"[/B]. It does not matte if that limit came from plot, situation, rules, or player choice. And by a very very wide margin, if I told players that[B] they have no choice but to deal with a situation, they would say "this game is railroading me".[/B] (but that [I]is not be a bad thing[/I], so set aside your love hate for the term. I have players who only want to play 'railroad' games.) [/QUOTE]

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