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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 9854827" data-attributes="member: 87792">I don't think it's remotely inexplicable. If you kill a PC the player soon gets another. If you beat them up they need a long rest. But taking their stuff and that's potentially permanent.And this brings me to the subject of this thread. I don't think that &quot;railroading&quot; is the problem; I think the right words are &quot;disrespect&quot; and possibly even &quot;violation&quot;.I suspect that had someone tried to use the tuning fork and you said &quot;instead of ringing it makes a leaden thud. Someone has set up a dimensional lock; Plane Shift won't work and there's no point burning the spell slot but bigger spells might&quot; then they would have been fine. There is always a bigger fish.But you didn't do that. Instead you stole small, valuable, and implicitly well protected objects off their persons despite their being high level adventurers. You disrespected their competence and gave them no possibility to avoid this. And you claimed the right to take just about anything off their characters because you want to. What next? Their boxers while they are wearing them, with no roll?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 9854827, member: 87792"] I don't think it's remotely inexplicable. If you kill a PC the player soon gets another. If you beat them up they need a long rest. But taking their stuff and that's potentially permanent. And this brings me to the subject of this thread. I don't think that "railroading" is the problem; I think the right words are "disrespect" and possibly even "violation". I suspect that had someone tried to use the tuning fork and you said "instead of ringing it makes a leaden thud. Someone has set up a dimensional lock; Plane Shift won't work and there's no point burning the spell slot but bigger spells might" then they would have been fine. There is always a bigger fish. But you didn't do that. Instead you stole small, valuable, and implicitly well protected objects off their persons despite their being high level adventurers. You disrespected their competence and gave them no possibility to avoid this. And you claimed the right to take just about anything off their characters because you want to. What next? Their boxers while they are wearing them, with no roll? [/QUOTE]

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