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<blockquote data-quote="Scott Christian" data-source="post: 9856041" data-attributes="member: 6901101"><p>That is unfortunate that he said, "locked down." He also said, "closing gates." He also said, "using magic to steal tuning forks from those arriving." Only later did he state there were plenty of ways off. That scenario he is describing does not sound at all like people have permission to just leave. The Winter Court is trying to take hold of the Feywild. </p><p></p><p>And again, that is not a problem. Sounds fun to me. But if its just: "Hey, you are in the Feywild, yet like normal, all the other pathways to leave are open," then it isn't really an adventure is it. There is no inciting incident outside of having a couple tuning forks stolen. And that's the thing, you can't have it both ways. It's either an adventure and you are trying to get out of the Feywild to finish your quest, or it is a chance to do some Feywild shopping. Which is it?</p><p></p><p>I agree with you. The players can suggest all those things. But that doesn't negate my claim that they are doing something until the DM's whims are placated. If Reynard says, "Sure, all of those would have worked." Then why are they here in the first place. Is it an adventure or not? Is there an objective or not? If Reynard says, "Well, only numbers 1 and 3 would work." Then it is a game where the players have to go along the tracks until they guess the right number.</p><p></p><p>And by no means am I discounting the fun that can be had by guessing the right number. The players, myself included, may love exploring the Feywild and turning up stones that don't get us out. Who knows? Maybe it turns into a comedy of errors, and the table is laughing their heads off. </p><p></p><p>But I think it is clear from Reynard's post that he meant the Feywild to be an adventure. One where they had to escape, and while doing so (however they do it), gain some experience before continuing on with their campaign objective.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scott Christian, post: 9856041, member: 6901101"] That is unfortunate that he said, "locked down." He also said, "closing gates." He also said, "using magic to steal tuning forks from those arriving." Only later did he state there were plenty of ways off. That scenario he is describing does not sound at all like people have permission to just leave. The Winter Court is trying to take hold of the Feywild. And again, that is not a problem. Sounds fun to me. But if its just: "Hey, you are in the Feywild, yet like normal, all the other pathways to leave are open," then it isn't really an adventure is it. There is no inciting incident outside of having a couple tuning forks stolen. And that's the thing, you can't have it both ways. It's either an adventure and you are trying to get out of the Feywild to finish your quest, or it is a chance to do some Feywild shopping. Which is it? I agree with you. The players can suggest all those things. But that doesn't negate my claim that they are doing something until the DM's whims are placated. If Reynard says, "Sure, all of those would have worked." Then why are they here in the first place. Is it an adventure or not? Is there an objective or not? If Reynard says, "Well, only numbers 1 and 3 would work." Then it is a game where the players have to go along the tracks until they guess the right number. And by no means am I discounting the fun that can be had by guessing the right number. The players, myself included, may love exploring the Feywild and turning up stones that don't get us out. Who knows? Maybe it turns into a comedy of errors, and the table is laughing their heads off. But I think it is clear from Reynard's post that he meant the Feywild to be an adventure. One where they had to escape, and while doing so (however they do it), gain some experience before continuing on with their campaign objective. [/QUOTE]
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