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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 9856784" data-attributes="member: 23751">That's still not a railroad.&nbsp; If you fail at something you can get into hot water, which can include being trapped.&nbsp; That's not a railroad. The group chose to go to White Plume Mountain.&nbsp; They chose to keep exploring.&nbsp; Their choices brought them to the puzzle where they failed and got stuck.A railroad is the DM forcing the party into the mountain even though they want to go some other way.&nbsp; Then forcing them through the dungeon to puzzle even though they want to leave. Exercise of player agency can result in being stuck or only having one way out of something.Yeah.&nbsp; I was a teenager at the time and didn't have the experience that I have now.&nbsp; Now I wouldn't gate something critical behind a puzzle or secret door, but if I did somehow screw up and didn't realize how important the thing gated was, I would act to correct my error.&nbsp; Depending on the nature of the error and the state of the fiction, the players may or may not know that there was a problem that got fixed.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 9856784, member: 23751"] That's still not a railroad. If you fail at something you can get into hot water, which can include being trapped. That's not a railroad. The group chose to go to White Plume Mountain. They chose to keep exploring. Their choices brought them to the puzzle where they failed and got stuck. A railroad is the DM forcing the party into the mountain even though they want to go some other way. Then forcing them through the dungeon to puzzle even though they want to leave. Exercise of player agency can result in being stuck or only having one way out of something. Yeah. I was a teenager at the time and didn't have the experience that I have now. Now I wouldn't gate something critical behind a puzzle or secret door, but if I did somehow screw up and didn't realize how important the thing gated was, I would act to correct my error. Depending on the nature of the error and the state of the fiction, the players may or may not know that there was a problem that got fixed. [/QUOTE]

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