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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 8855378" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>IME this is entirely a player problem and it is completely divorced from mechanics. A poor player playing a Barbarian with an 8 charisma will try to dominate the social interactions if that is his play style even though almost any other character would be better.</p><p></p><p>I have never seen class mechanics come into play when it comes to stealing the spotlight and that is playing with well over 10 DMs and 50 players over the last 7 years. The three things I have seen cause some players to steal the spotlight are bad players, shy players and inexperienced players at a table with very experienced players. YMMV</p><p></p><p>When it comes to shy/introverted players a lot of times that is how they want it, so it is not necessarily bad. There are a lot of players out there, and I mean a lot, that want to mostly listen to the story and not write it. I played a 14 Charisma Rogue at a table with a 22 Charisma Warlock and a Paladin (18 CH maybe?) and I had to handle most of the social interactions because I was not awful (14 charisma and proficiency), the Paladin and Warlock never wanted to talk and the other non-introverts at the table were awful in Charisma. I literally had to ask the Warlock to try to persuade someone at one point because it was important and I knew he was better than me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 8855378, member: 7030563"] IME this is entirely a player problem and it is completely divorced from mechanics. A poor player playing a Barbarian with an 8 charisma will try to dominate the social interactions if that is his play style even though almost any other character would be better. I have never seen class mechanics come into play when it comes to stealing the spotlight and that is playing with well over 10 DMs and 50 players over the last 7 years. The three things I have seen cause some players to steal the spotlight are bad players, shy players and inexperienced players at a table with very experienced players. YMMV When it comes to shy/introverted players a lot of times that is how they want it, so it is not necessarily bad. There are a lot of players out there, and I mean a lot, that want to mostly listen to the story and not write it. I played a 14 Charisma Rogue at a table with a 22 Charisma Warlock and a Paladin (18 CH maybe?) and I had to handle most of the social interactions because I was not awful (14 charisma and proficiency), the Paladin and Warlock never wanted to talk and the other non-introverts at the table were awful in Charisma. I literally had to ask the Warlock to try to persuade someone at one point because it was important and I knew he was better than me. [/QUOTE]
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