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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8855472" data-attributes="member: 93670">This reads like the problems you point out are all exclusive to wizard, that is wrong.&nbsp; The most important thing a wizard can do iin combat its debuff &amp; engage in battlefield&nbsp; control of monsters in ways that mitigate &amp; reduce resource (hp spell slot charges etc) attrition or buff their allies to make those allies so they do that by operating more effectively with greater safety.&nbsp; &nbsp; That has always been the case but resource attrition was downplayed so much there is very little value added by reducing it &amp; PCs operate so effectively with such a dense layer of&nbsp; near plot armored levels of safety there is not much value in increasing that even further.&nbsp;&nbsp; Then After the rest of the game shifted to move from a team game to a group that solos near each other in ways that kicked the wizard's niche out from the &quot;important contribution&quot; bit of d&amp;d's venn diagram the knowledge skills were altered to meet the needs of the do everything great&nbsp; yourself main characters.&nbsp; That was an important part of what the wizard brought to the table before&nbsp; though.&nbsp; Even without knowing how it worked mechanically it's easy to see <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/intelligence-is-your-lie-detecting-stat-is-it-still-a-dump-stat.693612/post-8850280" target="_blank">when laid out</a> &amp; has already been mentioned in the last few pages.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 8855472, member: 93670"] This reads like the problems you point out are all exclusive to wizard, that is wrong. The most important thing a wizard can do iin combat its debuff & engage in battlefield control of monsters in ways that mitigate & reduce resource[I] (hp spell slot charges etc)[/I] attrition or buff their allies to make those allies so they do that by operating more effectively with greater safety. That has always been the case but resource attrition was downplayed so much there is very little value added by reducing it & PCs operate so effectively with such a dense layer of near plot armored levels of safety there is not much value in increasing that even further. Then After the rest of the game shifted to move from a team game to a group that solos near each other in ways that kicked the wizard's niche out from the "important contribution" bit of d&d's venn diagram the knowledge skills were altered to meet the needs of the do everything great yourself main characters. That was an important part of what the wizard brought to the table before though. Even without knowing how it worked mechanically it's easy to see [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/intelligence-is-your-lie-detecting-stat-is-it-still-a-dump-stat.693612/post-8850280']when laid out[/URL] & has already been mentioned in the last few pages. [/QUOTE]

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