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<blockquote data-quote="FrozenNorth" data-source="post: 8855486" data-attributes="member: 7020832"><p>It is a spell that is on the Wizard spell list but not on clerics. The cleric only got it through their domain. So yes, it is a problem for all wizards (and the few clerics that also get the spell).</p><p></p><p>You may respond that the problem is the spell itself. But it isn’t one spell, it’s spell after spell after spell, and most of them are on the wizard’s spell list, some exclusively.</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Find familiar,</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">LTH,</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Simulcrum,</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Wish</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Hypnotic Pattern</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Forcecage</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Wall of Force</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">True Polymorph</li> </ul><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If it isn’t that powerful, why isn’t it available to the classes that are supposed to be the best at buffing? Why is it that the wizard has to be the best class at debuffing, multi target damage, with extremely powerful buffing starting at first level, great scouting, and great utility?</p><p></p><p>Plus more wizard spells being overpowered. Plus every splatbook that comes out adds spells to the wizard’s list, and just a couple to other lists.</p><p></p><p>Take Tasha’s and compare how many new spells wizards got compared to sorcerers.</p><p></p><p></p><p>But it <em>isn’t</em> an issue with Sorcerers. In my opinion, Sorcerers are pretty balanced compared to other classes. Having very few spells and having to pick spells carefully is a big part of that.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So, how does responding “that isn’t a wizard issue” advance that goal?</p><p></p><p>Like above for the Jester example with Polymorph. I mean, you know that Polymorph isn’t on the cleric’s general spell list but is on the wizard’s. So, this is clearly an issue that affects wizards more than other spellcasters.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrozenNorth, post: 8855486, member: 7020832"] It is a spell that is on the Wizard spell list but not on clerics. The cleric only got it through their domain. So yes, it is a problem for all wizards (and the few clerics that also get the spell). You may respond that the problem is the spell itself. But it isn’t one spell, it’s spell after spell after spell, and most of them are on the wizard’s spell list, some exclusively. [LIST] [*]Find familiar, [*]LTH, [*]Simulcrum, [*]Wish [*]Hypnotic Pattern [*]Forcecage [*]Wall of Force [*]True Polymorph [/LIST] If it isn’t that powerful, why isn’t it available to the classes that are supposed to be the best at buffing? Why is it that the wizard has to be the best class at debuffing, multi target damage, with extremely powerful buffing starting at first level, great scouting, and great utility? Plus more wizard spells being overpowered. Plus every splatbook that comes out adds spells to the wizard’s list, and just a couple to other lists. Take Tasha’s and compare how many new spells wizards got compared to sorcerers. But it [I]isn’t[/I] an issue with Sorcerers. In my opinion, Sorcerers are pretty balanced compared to other classes. Having very few spells and having to pick spells carefully is a big part of that. So, how does responding “that isn’t a wizard issue” advance that goal? Like above for the Jester example with Polymorph. I mean, you know that Polymorph isn’t on the cleric’s general spell list but is on the wizard’s. So, this is clearly an issue that affects wizards more than other spellcasters. [/QUOTE]
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