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<blockquote data-quote="FrozenNorth" data-source="post: 8856533" data-attributes="member: 7020832"><p>I gave a list of 8 overpowered spells (should have been 9 by adding Polymorph). If you say “only 3 are wizard exclusive”, you’re missing the point.</p><p></p><p>No other class can prepare all 9 spells. Some of the full caster classes can prepare one or two, and many have additional constraints.</p><p></p><p>More generally, if the spells wizards cast are overpowered, and they have access to too large a variety of spells, than wizards are overpowered. </p><p></p><p></p><p>There are a lot more overpowered spells on the Wizard’s list than on other lists. And, if the wizard has access to a large number of overpowered spells, and a large number of different overpowered spells, and the wizard can cast a lot of spells, then the wizard is overpowered.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You miscounted. Wizards get 23 new spells. Out of 21 new spells printed.</p><p></p><p>That is because they also get access to augury, speak with dead, enhance ability and divination. Hey, 4 extremely useful utility spells. Several of which are rituals that don’t cost slots.</p><p></p><p>Third, you are aware that you are reinforcing my point when I say that Wizards get the lion’s share of new spells when you recognize that sorcerers, the other class with only spellcasting features, gets half the spells wizards do, and that clerics and druids get extremely few new spells.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Did you miss the new spells wizards get and Scribe Wizard? It is powerful subclass.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrozenNorth, post: 8856533, member: 7020832"] I gave a list of 8 overpowered spells (should have been 9 by adding Polymorph). If you say “only 3 are wizard exclusive”, you’re missing the point. No other class can prepare all 9 spells. Some of the full caster classes can prepare one or two, and many have additional constraints. More generally, if the spells wizards cast are overpowered, and they have access to too large a variety of spells, than wizards are overpowered. There are a lot more overpowered spells on the Wizard’s list than on other lists. And, if the wizard has access to a large number of overpowered spells, and a large number of different overpowered spells, and the wizard can cast a lot of spells, then the wizard is overpowered. You miscounted. Wizards get 23 new spells. Out of 21 new spells printed. That is because they also get access to augury, speak with dead, enhance ability and divination. Hey, 4 extremely useful utility spells. Several of which are rituals that don’t cost slots. Third, you are aware that you are reinforcing my point when I say that Wizards get the lion’s share of new spells when you recognize that sorcerers, the other class with only spellcasting features, gets half the spells wizards do, and that clerics and druids get extremely few new spells. Did you miss the new spells wizards get and Scribe Wizard? It is powerful subclass. [/QUOTE]
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