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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 8865567" data-attributes="member: 7030563">No not like a 5e fighter can.&nbsp; Like I mention the world record to fire 10 arrows is 40 seconds.&nbsp; That is 4 seconds per arrow for a short span and it is &quot;ramped up&quot;.A 5th level fighter can beat that by quite a bit firing arrows all day long at 3 seconds per arrow and can ramp that up to 1.5 seconds per arrow for a short 6-second burst.&nbsp; A 20th level fighter can destroy that firing 24 arrows in 18 seconds before &quot;slowing down&quot; to 1.5 arrows a second until he runs out.That is with a bow, use a crossbow and it is even a bigger disparity.&nbsp; A heavy crossbow takes about 70 seconds to fire with the crossbow braced on the ground and being cranked most of that time.&nbsp; A basic 1st level fighter can fire off a bolt every 6 seconds, while also walking 30 feet .... if you use your 6th level extra feat (which no other class gets) for crossbow expert you can match the times above for a bow.&nbsp; That is unreal.They are not athletes, they are &quot;fighters&quot;.&nbsp; That said using the default rules a fighter with a 20 strength can long jump 20 feet, high jump 9 feet and run faster than a 9-minute mile while carrying 300lbs of gear.&nbsp; I do not think there is anyone alive that can do that.A fighter with a 6&nbsp; strength can run a 9-minute mile while carrying 90lbs of gear.&nbsp; People that can do that are few and far between.More to the point though I think we need to keep this focused on weapons and fighting.&nbsp; a 1st level fighter will generally survive being stabbed by a dagger 3 times.&nbsp; A 10th level fighter can be stabbed by a dagger an astounding 20 times and be expected to survive.&nbsp; That is with a 10 constitution, give him a 16 and he can up that to 30.&nbsp; That is with an actual dagger, not a kitchen knife!&nbsp; He will take 20 arrows and usually still be walking around.They are like Hercules.Moreover it is easier to build a fighter that is good with all weapons than it is any other class.&nbsp; You can very eaily build a fighter that transitions from a Greatsword to a Longbow to a pair of Shortswords and does all of them very well.&nbsp; You can't do that with other classes as easily and I would argue that is the fighters schtick.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 8865567, member: 7030563"] No not like a 5e fighter can. Like I mention the world record to fire 10 arrows is 40 seconds. That is 4 seconds per arrow for a short span and it is "ramped up". A 5th level fighter can beat that by quite a bit firing arrows all day long at 3 seconds per arrow and can ramp that up to 1.5 seconds per arrow for a short 6-second burst. A 20th level fighter can destroy that firing 24 arrows in 18 seconds before "slowing down" to 1.5 arrows a second until he runs out. That is with a bow, use a crossbow and it is even a bigger disparity. A heavy crossbow takes about 70 seconds to fire with the crossbow braced on the ground and being cranked most of that time. A basic 1st level fighter can fire off a bolt every 6 seconds, while also walking 30 feet .... if you use your 6th level extra feat (which no other class gets) for crossbow expert you can match the times above for a bow. That is unreal. They are not athletes, they are "fighters". That said using the default rules a fighter with a 20 strength can long jump 20 feet, high jump 9 feet and run faster than a 9-minute mile while carrying 300lbs of gear. I do not think there is anyone alive that can do that. A fighter with a 6 strength can run a 9-minute mile while carrying 90lbs of gear. People that can do that are few and far between. More to the point though I think we need to keep this focused on weapons and fighting. a 1st level fighter will generally survive being stabbed by a dagger 3 times. A 10th level fighter can be stabbed by a dagger an astounding 20 times and be expected to survive. That is with a 10 constitution, give him a 16 and he can up that to 30. That is with an actual dagger, not a kitchen knife! He will take 20 arrows and usually still be walking around. They are like Hercules. Moreover it is easier to build a fighter that is good with all weapons than it is any other class. You can very eaily build a fighter that transitions from a Greatsword to a Longbow to a pair of Shortswords and does all of them very well. You can't do that with other classes as easily and I would argue that is the fighters schtick. [/QUOTE]

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