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<blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 8865626" data-attributes="member: 63508">A wizard can only cast 4 a day. A Wizard can have&nbsp; all of them in their spell book.That the difference.The Cleric won't have high damage evocations unless his domain grants them. And by taking a domain that grants them, he loses the ability to ever get strong summon options or illusion options. He can switch his spells all he wants but the cleric spell list&nbsp; doesn't have access to them and he only gets one domain choice.The wizard has access to all of them in their list. The only things a wizard can't do is heal and resurrect. Sure the wizard only has 2 guranteed picks per level but they are the only class that can collect spells.That tells you something. Can is the cleric and druid allowed to switch accross their whole spell list daily. But the wizard only get 2 pcks a level and only swap what he/she/they find? Because the cleric and druid spell list has massive holes. The wizard spell list has only 2 small holes so the designers have to artificially hope the DM creates extra holes by not leaving too many spells as treasure.It's literally bad game design. Almost no game does &quot;Great all Everything but you can only pick X each day&quot;. They learned that never works back in the 80s.and 90s. But D&amp;D is older than that. And by the time we learned this, the cmmunity was used to the ultra versatile wizard.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Minigiant, post: 8865626, member: 63508"] A wizard can only cast 4 a day. A Wizard can have all of them in their spell book. That the difference. The Cleric won't have high damage evocations unless his domain grants them. And by taking a domain that grants them, he loses the ability to ever get strong summon options or illusion options. He can switch his spells all he wants but the cleric spell list doesn't have access to them and he only gets one domain choice. The wizard has access to all of them in their list. The only things a wizard can't do is heal and resurrect. Sure the wizard only has 2 guranteed picks per level but they are the only class that can collect spells. That tells you something. Can is the cleric and druid allowed to switch accross their whole spell list daily. But the wizard only get 2 pcks a level and only swap what he/she/they find? Because the cleric and druid spell list has massive holes. [B]The wizard spell list has only 2 small holes so the designers have to artificially hope the DM creates extra holes by not leaving too many spells as treasure.[/B] It's literally bad game design. Almost no game does "Great all Everything but you can only pick X each day". They learned that never works back in the 80s.and 90s. But D&D is older than that. And by the time we learned this, the cmmunity was used to the ultra versatile wizard. [/QUOTE]

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