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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 8970974" data-attributes="member: 7030563">I would say half the Wizards I have seen played get Lemunds Tiny Hut and most of them do not prepare it.&nbsp; So that only leaves them 7 3rd and 4th level spells they can prepare unless they have found magic items, gold and had enough time to scribe more.That aside, yes you may have a Wizard that does that but I think there are actually more that do the opposite - prepare maybe 3 or 4 3rd and 4th level spells with the rest spent on 1st and 2nd level spells and I would argue this is actually a more powerful build.&nbsp; Here are a couple examples:Example 1 (your example):&nbsp; Shield, Absorb Elements, Silvery Barbs, Mage Armor, Misty Step, Fear, Fireball, Counterspell, Dispel Magic, Greater Invisibility, Psychic Lance, Evards Tenticles, PolymorphExample 2 (better):&nbsp; Shield, Absorb Elements, Silvery Barbs, Mage Armor, Protection from Evil and Good, Magic Missle, Tasha's Mind Whip, Suggestion, Misty Step, Counterspell, Fear, PolymoprhExample 2 is objectively better IMO.&nbsp; The reason is the first example has the best 1st and 2nd level spells in the game but the opportunities to use them may not come up enough to actually use all the slots.&nbsp; Sure you will cast mage armor, you will cast shield every time you are hit, you will cast silvery barbs if you are critted or an enemy fails a save on your crowd pleaser (but you are not casting a lot of them) and you will use misty step if you need to escape something.&nbsp; Basically the first character has some great spells he can cast and then a bunch of conditional spells.&nbsp; The second guy has a LOT more flexibility.&nbsp; Guy #1 has Greater invisibility, one of the best spells in the game, but then he is going to go invisible to spam cantrips!Will guy 2 miss having fireball?&nbsp; Maybe.&nbsp; Will he miss Psychic Lance?&nbsp; Probably not when you can use Tasha's mind whip on 3 enemies with the same slot and still be able to spam it on single enemies with a 2nd level slot.&nbsp; Will he miss Dispel Magic?&nbsp; Absolutely he will, but he will miss it just as much if he has it prepared and used all his 3rd level slots.&nbsp;&nbsp; Will guy number 2 ever use PEG?&nbsp; I think he has a good chance of it being useful and a significant chance of it being gamebreaking.&nbsp; &nbsp; Shield is one of my favorite spells in the game.&nbsp; I don't understand the hate.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 8970974, member: 7030563"] I would say half the Wizards I have seen played get Lemunds Tiny Hut and most of them do not prepare it. So that only leaves them 7 3rd and 4th level spells they can prepare unless they have found magic items, gold and had enough time to scribe more. That aside, yes you may have a Wizard that does that but I think there are actually more that do the opposite - prepare maybe 3 or 4 3rd and 4th level spells with the rest spent on 1st and 2nd level spells and I would argue this is actually a more powerful build. Here are a couple examples: Example 1 (your example): Shield, Absorb Elements, Silvery Barbs, Mage Armor, Misty Step, Fear, Fireball, Counterspell, Dispel Magic, Greater Invisibility, Psychic Lance, Evards Tenticles, Polymorph Example 2 (better): Shield, Absorb Elements, Silvery Barbs, Mage Armor, Protection from Evil and Good, Magic Missle, Tasha's Mind Whip, Suggestion, Misty Step, Counterspell, Fear, Polymoprh Example 2 is objectively better IMO. The reason is the first example has the best 1st and 2nd level spells in the game but the opportunities to use them may not come up enough to actually use all the slots. Sure you will cast mage armor, you will cast shield every time you are hit, you will cast silvery barbs if you are critted or an enemy fails a save on your crowd pleaser (but you are not casting a lot of them) and you will use misty step if you need to escape something. Basically the first character has some great spells he can cast and then a bunch of conditional spells. The second guy has a LOT more flexibility. Guy #1 has Greater invisibility, one of the best spells in the game, but then he is going to go invisible to spam cantrips! Will guy 2 miss having fireball? Maybe. Will he miss Psychic Lance? Probably not when you can use Tasha's mind whip on 3 enemies with the same slot and still be able to spam it on single enemies with a 2nd level slot. Will he miss Dispel Magic? Absolutely he will, but he will miss it just as much if he has it prepared and used all his 3rd level slots. Will guy number 2 ever use PEG? I think he has a good chance of it being useful and a significant chance of it being gamebreaking. Shield is one of my favorite spells in the game. I don't understand the hate. [/QUOTE]

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