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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 8973427" data-attributes="member: 6795602">I think that there's 3 primary solutions or some combination of them and they all will have significant pushback.<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Mythic martials - many people just don't want martials to this scale in the game</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Meta Currency - many people dislike meta currencys on a conceptual level and the closer they get to Fate levels of player narrative control the less they like them.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Hard Nerf Casters - another option that many people just will never get on board with.</li>
</ul>I think there can be some buffs to martials, even fairly significant ones without getting to the level of mythic.&nbsp; I think these could be welcomed.&nbsp; I also think some nerfs to casters would be welcomed - especially on the individual spell front.&nbsp; Probably less with taking away slots or spells know/prepared though.&nbsp; I even think there's some more martial meta currencies similar to indominatable, superiority dice&nbsp; or rage that players can get on board with.&nbsp; That said I think pushing on this front too much or giving too much narrative control to players via these currencies would be a step too far for many players.I think the way to tackle the problem is nuanced and by getting a feel of what the playerbase will find acceptable and push as far on these fronts as possible without going so far in any specific direction to lose too many players sensitive to changes along that axis.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 8973427, member: 6795602"] I think that there's 3 primary solutions or some combination of them and they all will have significant pushback. [LIST] [*]Mythic martials - many people just don't want martials to this scale in the game [*]Meta Currency - many people dislike meta currencys on a conceptual level and the closer they get to Fate levels of player narrative control the less they like them. [*]Hard Nerf Casters - another option that many people just will never get on board with. [/LIST] I think there can be some buffs to martials, even fairly significant ones without getting to the level of mythic. I think these could be welcomed. I also think some nerfs to casters would be welcomed - especially on the individual spell front. Probably less with taking away slots or spells know/prepared though. I even think there's some more martial meta currencies similar to indominatable, superiority dice or rage that players can get on board with. That said I think pushing on this front too much or giving too much narrative control to players via these currencies would be a step too far for many players. I think the way to tackle the problem is nuanced and by getting a feel of what the playerbase will find acceptable and push as far on these fronts as possible without going so far in any specific direction to lose too many players sensitive to changes along that axis. [/QUOTE]

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