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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Agback" data-source="post: 1220709" data-attributes="member: 5328">Ah! So there is a Church hierarchy, then. This presumably has a ordinary jurisdiction over the clergy of all sects on a territorial basis. So did the Eskatonics require my licence to preach within my diocese? Did the Brother Battle adept require my offices to consecrate a chapel? Could I conduct a visitation to make sure that all theurges were confessing on a regular basis (as canon law requires them to do)? If I excommunicated someone, were sects other than the Orthodoxy enjoined against performing services for them? My assumption was that the answers to all these questions was 'yes'. Everyone else's (except those of the Temple Avesti, who was played by a Catholic) was 'no'.(My GMs' responses to questions of this sort may be scanned at <a href="http://www.goldweb.com.au/~fred/carbonek/carbonek_setting_church.html" target="_blank">http://www.goldweb.com.au/~fred/carbonek/carbonek_setting_church.html</a> and <a href="http://www.goldweb.com.au/~fred/carbonek/carbonek_setting_evill.html" target="_blank">http://www.goldweb.com.au/~fred/carbonek/carbonek_setting_evill.html</a>.)The thing is that there is no point in saying that a character commands respect unless the players know how far that out to go.There aren't even non-game specifics. There are no specifics, just generalities.How? They can't all be applicable, because so many of them are contradictory. Are bishops elected by the faithful of their dioceses? By the clergy of their dioceses? Appointed by their immediate superiors? Appointed by the Patriarch?How did Temple Aeon wrest the patriarchy from the Orthodoxy? How did the Orthodoxy get it back? The answers to these questions will dictate the nature of the intrigue in which players have to take part, and it is impossible to play an intriguant without knowing what favours you have at your disposal and what favours others have in their gift.It's not different in kind: both Star Wars and Fading Suns are superficial works of Space Opera. Fading Suns is just a clearer example among RPG products. I thought of running some Star Wars once, and wasted a week trying to make a version of the setting that made a bit of sense and didn't make Ben Kenobi a total liar. I couldn't do it.Regards,Brett[edited: coding, typo]</blockquote>

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