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<blockquote data-quote="Jürgen Hubert" data-source="post: 1220732" data-attributes="member: 7177"><p>Well, sort of. The whole of the faith is called "The Universal Church of the Celestial Sun". But it gets a bit tricky where the various sects are concerned.</p><p></p><p>Urth Orthodox effectively <em>is</em> the church hierarchy, and thus the most power, and in most cases an Orthodox bishop will have jurisdiction over the other sects. Especially the Avestities - they are still "in penance" and <em>have</em> to obey any Orthodox priest who outranks them. And Sanctuary Aeon members will comply in most cases - though they might sometimes risk confrontation if they feel a pressing need (and then hope that the rest of their order and the populace backs them up).</p><p></p><p>Members of the Escatonic Order would theoretically also fall under the bishop's jurisdiction, but they have a nasty habit of ignoring any hierarchies that don't suit them. The Brother Battle, on the other hand, are only beholden to the Patriarch - a bishop might be able to accuse one of them of church crimes, and if he has the evidence might pull it off, but he cannot give them orders. Still, the order will rarely refuse reasonable requests by a bishop.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, in theory the Eskatonics are "upstanding members of the church", and thus don't need anyone's permission to preach. In practice, a bishop shouldn't have any problems running them out of town at the slightest hint of trouble. Just have someone follow them around, take notes of their sermons, and nail them for anything smacking of deviating from church canon. With most Eskatonics this should be easy...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Probably not - they <em>are</em> independent, as mentioned above.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes with Orthodox and Avestites, probably yes with Sanctuary Aeon, no with Brother Battle. Probably with the Eskatonics as well, though this might annoy them a lot.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>All of them - at least in theory. Members of other orders might support them secretly (especially Those Pesky Escatonics), but no one is allowed to help them unless they wish to be excommunicated themselves. Expect some of them to complain to <em>your</em> superiors though, if they consider the issue important enough.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, realistically, no one of a lower rank in <em>any</em> sect - or most nobles, guilders, and all peasants, for that matter - will be very, very wary of crossing you. You <em>can</em> excommunicate them, and that's a very powerful threat. You hold immense power over the hearts of the peasants in your area of influence, and no noble or guilder will ignore that. All the NPCs and PCs you act with should at least <em>appear</em> to be courteous and firm believers in the faith if they know what is good for them.</p><p></p><p>And if someone tries to stand up to you... well, there are lots of people trying to curry your favor. Or at least, there ought to be.</p><p></p><p>(Sorry, gotta go - more answers will come later...)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jürgen Hubert, post: 1220732, member: 7177"] Well, sort of. The whole of the faith is called "The Universal Church of the Celestial Sun". But it gets a bit tricky where the various sects are concerned. Urth Orthodox effectively [i]is[/i] the church hierarchy, and thus the most power, and in most cases an Orthodox bishop will have jurisdiction over the other sects. Especially the Avestities - they are still "in penance" and [i]have[/i] to obey any Orthodox priest who outranks them. And Sanctuary Aeon members will comply in most cases - though they might sometimes risk confrontation if they feel a pressing need (and then hope that the rest of their order and the populace backs them up). Members of the Escatonic Order would theoretically also fall under the bishop's jurisdiction, but they have a nasty habit of ignoring any hierarchies that don't suit them. The Brother Battle, on the other hand, are only beholden to the Patriarch - a bishop might be able to accuse one of them of church crimes, and if he has the evidence might pull it off, but he cannot give them orders. Still, the order will rarely refuse reasonable requests by a bishop. Well, in theory the Eskatonics are "upstanding members of the church", and thus don't need anyone's permission to preach. In practice, a bishop shouldn't have any problems running them out of town at the slightest hint of trouble. Just have someone follow them around, take notes of their sermons, and nail them for anything smacking of deviating from church canon. With most Eskatonics this should be easy... Probably not - they [i]are[/i] independent, as mentioned above. Yes with Orthodox and Avestites, probably yes with Sanctuary Aeon, no with Brother Battle. Probably with the Eskatonics as well, though this might annoy them a lot. All of them - at least in theory. Members of other orders might support them secretly (especially Those Pesky Escatonics), but no one is allowed to help them unless they wish to be excommunicated themselves. Expect some of them to complain to [i]your[/i] superiors though, if they consider the issue important enough. Well, realistically, no one of a lower rank in [i]any[/i] sect - or most nobles, guilders, and all peasants, for that matter - will be very, very wary of crossing you. You [i]can[/i] excommunicate them, and that's a very powerful threat. You hold immense power over the hearts of the peasants in your area of influence, and no noble or guilder will ignore that. All the NPCs and PCs you act with should at least [i]appear[/i] to be courteous and firm believers in the faith if they know what is good for them. And if someone tries to stand up to you... well, there are lots of people trying to curry your favor. Or at least, there ought to be. (Sorry, gotta go - more answers will come later...) [/QUOTE]
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