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<blockquote data-quote="Hriston" data-source="post: 6665846" data-attributes="member: 6787503"><p>None of these reasons for going into the wild would necessarily lead to one becoming a Ranger. People engaged in the activities you've described could just as easily be Commoner NPC's. "I wanted to learn to hunt, so I became a Ranger." isn't much of a compelling backstory. Not every hermit in the woods is a Ranger. </p><p></p><p>I'll grant you wanderlust is a huge component of the archetype, but it would have to be a strong wanderlust indeed, and not just, "I like to take long walks through the countryside, exploring the local pubs and villages." Tolkien's Earendil the Mariner is perhaps the ultimate expression of the far-wandering Ranger, and yet ultimately he too is a monster slayer, hunting the creatures of Morgoth beyond the Walls of the World.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>While <em>fighter</em> has the meaning, "one who fights", the meaning of <em>ranger</em> is a bit more complicated, and I think it's more helpful to look at the meaning of the noun being used, rather than the verb <em>range</em>. Google gives three definitions for <em>ranger</em>:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>all of which are in play in the class title. So it's not simply "ranging around" that makes one a Ranger, but rather a particular position of guardianship and martial character. Wandering is only part of it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Adventures where they kill people they <em>don't</em> hate? Seems pretty hateful to me. Remember the favored enemy is the <em>most</em> hated. It's the one you love to hate.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Why not? I imagine that orcs are worthy of hatred. Since when is it wrong or unseemly to hate creatures whose sole purpose in life is to destroy and dominate those weaker than themselves? In 5E, a large group of orcs is a formidable threat, even at higher levels.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I know. It was late.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You're making a lot of assumptions. First, why is there a Ranger in every village? It's supposed to be one of the more rare class types. I'd assume that the typical villager defending her home would progress as a Fighter, if she had a character class at all. Developing sheer fighting ability after all is the best way to defend against the widest variety of attackers. When it comes to fighting specific enemies, the Ranger is the rare specialist. Village having trouble with marauding hordes of gibberlings? A Ranger who has spent her time studying these creatures helps the people mount a defense. Most likely she is not one of them, but is a mysterious wanderer who keeps watch on the general area.</p><p></p><p>Second, does everyone in the world who ranges the wild, just by sheer staggering coincidence, also happen to be a Ranger?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hriston, post: 6665846, member: 6787503"] None of these reasons for going into the wild would necessarily lead to one becoming a Ranger. People engaged in the activities you've described could just as easily be Commoner NPC's. "I wanted to learn to hunt, so I became a Ranger." isn't much of a compelling backstory. Not every hermit in the woods is a Ranger. I'll grant you wanderlust is a huge component of the archetype, but it would have to be a strong wanderlust indeed, and not just, "I like to take long walks through the countryside, exploring the local pubs and villages." Tolkien's Earendil the Mariner is perhaps the ultimate expression of the far-wandering Ranger, and yet ultimately he too is a monster slayer, hunting the creatures of Morgoth beyond the Walls of the World. While [I]fighter[/I] has the meaning, "one who fights", the meaning of [I]ranger[/I] is a bit more complicated, and I think it's more helpful to look at the meaning of the noun being used, rather than the verb [I]range[/I]. Google gives three definitions for [I]ranger[/I]: all of which are in play in the class title. So it's not simply "ranging around" that makes one a Ranger, but rather a particular position of guardianship and martial character. Wandering is only part of it. Adventures where they kill people they [I]don't[/I] hate? Seems pretty hateful to me. Remember the favored enemy is the [I]most[/I] hated. It's the one you love to hate. Why not? I imagine that orcs are worthy of hatred. Since when is it wrong or unseemly to hate creatures whose sole purpose in life is to destroy and dominate those weaker than themselves? In 5E, a large group of orcs is a formidable threat, even at higher levels. I know. It was late. You're making a lot of assumptions. First, why is there a Ranger in every village? It's supposed to be one of the more rare class types. I'd assume that the typical villager defending her home would progress as a Fighter, if she had a character class at all. Developing sheer fighting ability after all is the best way to defend against the widest variety of attackers. When it comes to fighting specific enemies, the Ranger is the rare specialist. Village having trouble with marauding hordes of gibberlings? A Ranger who has spent her time studying these creatures helps the people mount a defense. Most likely she is not one of them, but is a mysterious wanderer who keeps watch on the general area. Second, does everyone in the world who ranges the wild, just by sheer staggering coincidence, also happen to be a Ranger? [/QUOTE]
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