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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hriston" data-source="post: 6666181" data-attributes="member: 6787503">I asked if being a wilderness guy makes you a Ranger. You said:Then I asked if all wilderness guys were, by coincidence, Rangers. You said:So which is it? Is every lumberjack, huntsman, and forester a member of the Ranger class, or is there something else that defines the class besides an aptitude for survival in the wilderness?Also, is every Rogue a bad person? That's what the word means after all.Is every Wizard constrained to put her highest score in Wisdom? You do know the word Wizard means someone who is wise, don't you?Earendil is defined by the slaying of Ancalagon the Black, the sire of all flying dragons. He is a Dragon Slayer.Earendil doesn't have a class. He is not a D&D character. He is a literary character. There's a difference.Because he's the orc-fighting guy in the group that happens to be going on this adventure. So... group loyalty? ...opportunity for profit so he can buy a new set of orc-slaying weapons? ....thinks he'll see some orcs on the way?Characters are complex. Class is just part of the equation.Why would an Assassin go on adventure that didn't involve assassinating someone? Is that too confining a concept for a character class?Why would a Fighter try to resolve a conflict non-violently, since that would deprive her of an opportunity to do what her class is all about?I'm only assuming something that's been part of the class since it was introduced. Since when is the Ranger meant to represent every mundane person with forestry and outdoor skills, as if that's what defines the class? I think this gets to the heart of what's hard to define about the Ranger, because what you're talking about could be represented just as easily by a Fighter or a Rogue with survival skills. The Ranger needs to have something else to make it unique.</blockquote>

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