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What is/should be the Ranger's "thing"?
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<blockquote data-quote="Diamondeye" data-source="post: 6670230" data-attributes="member: 60019"><p>I already addressed this. Aragorn is a literary character; his creation is unrelated to D&D. Simply being characteristics that Aragorn has doesn't logically relate them to one another and especially doesn't do so in the context of D&D. Pointing out that this character ties them together is simply pedantry; technically he ties them all together in the abstract but Aragorn has nothing to do with D&D and that isn't a relevant commonality for purposes of designing a D&D class. "Looks like X fantasy character" is not the desired endstate for the Ranger or any other class. There's many fantasy rangers and the ranger class ideally should be able to approximate most of them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It was not explicit at the time 1E was played - it was not mentioned in the PHB, and at the time that 2E succeeded it the internet as a common public facility was still several years off. Most players would have been unaware of that.</p><p></p><p>More importantly, who cares? Why do we care about a few people in EGG's original group? Why should emulating some guy that played with Gygax be a design goal?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And that is why we should not use attempts to make a class to emulate a particular non-D&D fantasy character. It was done in 1E when it really should not have been done once the game went from "something some guys in Wisconsin play together" to "something we are publishing and selling nationwide."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Diamondeye, post: 6670230, member: 60019"] I already addressed this. Aragorn is a literary character; his creation is unrelated to D&D. Simply being characteristics that Aragorn has doesn't logically relate them to one another and especially doesn't do so in the context of D&D. Pointing out that this character ties them together is simply pedantry; technically he ties them all together in the abstract but Aragorn has nothing to do with D&D and that isn't a relevant commonality for purposes of designing a D&D class. "Looks like X fantasy character" is not the desired endstate for the Ranger or any other class. There's many fantasy rangers and the ranger class ideally should be able to approximate most of them. It was not explicit at the time 1E was played - it was not mentioned in the PHB, and at the time that 2E succeeded it the internet as a common public facility was still several years off. Most players would have been unaware of that. More importantly, who cares? Why do we care about a few people in EGG's original group? Why should emulating some guy that played with Gygax be a design goal? And that is why we should not use attempts to make a class to emulate a particular non-D&D fantasy character. It was done in 1E when it really should not have been done once the game went from "something some guys in Wisconsin play together" to "something we are publishing and selling nationwide." [/QUOTE]
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