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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 1161876" data-attributes="member: 710"><p>Blindsight as a general ability and as a feat is overpowered - according to my reading/DMG , it makes Spot checks completely irrelevant. You always see the creatures. I don`t like this ability, and why do dragons bother with taking spot then? It seems, most designers did forget how this ablity actually works. (with the new distinctin blindsense/blindsight it makes sense). </p><p>It might be better if Blindsight/Blindsense/Tremorsense just allowed for changing the skill used for spot (and ignoring any visiblity based penalties like the spell invisiblity) - maybe listen for sonicbased, survival for scent- and tremorsense-based and, if dragons are really that special, still use spot for it...</p><p></p><p>For Scent:</p><p>Currently, there is no skill for this ability. It is usually a wisdom check, and it sometimes helps survival checks. Two possible options come to my mind:</p><p>a) </p><p>Make scent a skill. Disadvantage: even if it is cross class for all player classes, it sounds unusual that humans can try their senses in such a strong way. But you could take the Scent feat(similar to Track) and make it a prerequisite to make scent checks against DCs above 10. </p><p></p><p>b)</p><p>The Scent feat (can only be taken by certain races and creatures - maybe gnomes and half-orcs) allows to make survival checks to smell, identify and locate odors.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 1161876, member: 710"] Blindsight as a general ability and as a feat is overpowered - according to my reading/DMG , it makes Spot checks completely irrelevant. You always see the creatures. I don`t like this ability, and why do dragons bother with taking spot then? It seems, most designers did forget how this ablity actually works. (with the new distinctin blindsense/blindsight it makes sense). It might be better if Blindsight/Blindsense/Tremorsense just allowed for changing the skill used for spot (and ignoring any visiblity based penalties like the spell invisiblity) - maybe listen for sonicbased, survival for scent- and tremorsense-based and, if dragons are really that special, still use spot for it... For Scent: Currently, there is no skill for this ability. It is usually a wisdom check, and it sometimes helps survival checks. Two possible options come to my mind: a) Make scent a skill. Disadvantage: even if it is cross class for all player classes, it sounds unusual that humans can try their senses in such a strong way. But you could take the Scent feat(similar to Track) and make it a prerequisite to make scent checks against DCs above 10. b) The Scent feat (can only be taken by certain races and creatures - maybe gnomes and half-orcs) allows to make survival checks to smell, identify and locate odors. [/QUOTE]
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