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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 4995507" data-attributes="member: 58197">My attitude throughout 20 years of gaming has been, I want a basic level of competence, such that our party is at least as powerful with you as it is without you (i.e., we don't have to spend all our time protecting you and hauling you out of trouble while you contribute nothing in return).As long as you can pull your own weight to that extent, it's all good. Most DMs scale challenges to match the party's total power level. If you don't mind contributing a smaller share of that power level than I do, then I don't mind either.(If you do mind, well, then, we'll have to figure out whose build is farthest from the party baseline. I don't mind "unfocusing" a super-optimized character so as to fit better in a group of more casual players. On the other hand, I don't feel like I should have to gimp my character so someone else can keep up.)</blockquote>