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<blockquote data-quote="kenmarable" data-source="post: 4996317" data-attributes="member: 40359"><p>Back when I played WoW that was precisely why I avoided any and all raids or group activities larger than my wife and I. We had a lot of fun utterly avoiding all group activities. (And, before you ask why we were playing an MMO then, if WoW was as cool as it is and could run just on our local network, we'd prefer it that way.)</p><p></p><p>And in my experience online, I think it's just a vocal group of 4e players that treat the game that way. They are allowed to play how they like, but if I see another "Why would you play that race/class combo because the ability score bonuses don't match?!" comment I'll scream. That's my particular annoyance with *some* fans that I'm seeing FAR FAR more with 4e than previous editions.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I really hesitate to use this statement, but quite frankly I think they are playing it wrong. It's a cooperative game, and when they are telling you what you can and can't play, even if you are still valuable to the party, well, then they are missing that whole "cooperative" thing. We don't try to "win" at D&D. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>Same here. I can certainly understand some people being interested in that, and I'm perfectly cool with that - as long as they keep their calculations to their own PC. But once they start DPS calculating my PC, watch out. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> As others have said, as long as I'm more benefit than burden, and more fun than distracting, I could care less what my DPS is.</p><p></p><p>My line is if people want to optimize their own PC, that's great. Enjoy the game however you want. Once you start trying to optimize other people's PCs when they haven't asked you to, that's just rude. Don't be down wit' O.P.P.C., k?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kenmarable, post: 4996317, member: 40359"] Back when I played WoW that was precisely why I avoided any and all raids or group activities larger than my wife and I. We had a lot of fun utterly avoiding all group activities. (And, before you ask why we were playing an MMO then, if WoW was as cool as it is and could run just on our local network, we'd prefer it that way.) And in my experience online, I think it's just a vocal group of 4e players that treat the game that way. They are allowed to play how they like, but if I see another "Why would you play that race/class combo because the ability score bonuses don't match?!" comment I'll scream. That's my particular annoyance with *some* fans that I'm seeing FAR FAR more with 4e than previous editions. I really hesitate to use this statement, but quite frankly I think they are playing it wrong. It's a cooperative game, and when they are telling you what you can and can't play, even if you are still valuable to the party, well, then they are missing that whole "cooperative" thing. We don't try to "win" at D&D. :) Same here. I can certainly understand some people being interested in that, and I'm perfectly cool with that - as long as they keep their calculations to their own PC. But once they start DPS calculating my PC, watch out. ;) As others have said, as long as I'm more benefit than burden, and more fun than distracting, I could care less what my DPS is. My line is if people want to optimize their own PC, that's great. Enjoy the game however you want. Once you start trying to optimize other people's PCs when they haven't asked you to, that's just rude. Don't be down wit' O.P.P.C., k? [/QUOTE]
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