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<blockquote data-quote="TheCosmicKid" data-source="post: 7809787" data-attributes="member: 6683613"><p>Could you point me to where specifically you did this? In <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/what-is-the-essence-of-d-d.666859/page-13#post-7808794" target="_blank">post #251</a>, you quote and respond to the sentences before the questions, and then you quote and respond to a sentence after them. In <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/what-is-the-essence-of-d-d.666859/page-18#post-7809088" target="_blank">post #348</a>, you say nothing about them. In <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/what-is-the-essence-of-d-d.666859/page-19#post-7809144" target="_blank">post #366</a>, you say nothing about them. And in this most recent post, you say nothing about them except that you have already responded to them, which is a claim that, as far as I can discern, is simply untrue.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The problem is that the references you have made, however extensive, do not support the conclusions you want to draw. That's the substance of my position that you have, despite being told repeatedly, been unable to grasp. In formal terms: I am arguing the negative. When I ask <em>"But then what? What have you actually 'refuted'?"</em>, I'm not just being contrary. I'm trying to point out to you that you need to do more logical work to connect the dots from <em>"Reason R is nonsense because of X, Y, and Z"</em> to Primacy of Magic being the Essence of D&D. After all, even false beliefs say a lot about what people perceive to be the essence of D&D. If people are saying that 4E is not D&D because, say, they think it doesn't use ability scores, then they're absolutely wrong for thinking that, but it's still strong evidence that ability scores are a part of the Essence of D&D in their eyes -- evidence which weighs against the Primacy of Magic hypothesis. So if you don't connect the dots here, you haven't proven your case.</p><p></p><p>Now, so much for the substance. The less said about the second half of your post, the better. Neither I nor anybody else here requires your invitation to speak our mind.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheCosmicKid, post: 7809787, member: 6683613"] Could you point me to where specifically you did this? In [url=https://www.enworld.org/threads/what-is-the-essence-of-d-d.666859/page-13#post-7808794]post #251[/url], you quote and respond to the sentences before the questions, and then you quote and respond to a sentence after them. In [url=https://www.enworld.org/threads/what-is-the-essence-of-d-d.666859/page-18#post-7809088]post #348[/url], you say nothing about them. In [url=https://www.enworld.org/threads/what-is-the-essence-of-d-d.666859/page-19#post-7809144]post #366[/url], you say nothing about them. And in this most recent post, you say nothing about them except that you have already responded to them, which is a claim that, as far as I can discern, is simply untrue. The problem is that the references you have made, however extensive, do not support the conclusions you want to draw. That's the substance of my position that you have, despite being told repeatedly, been unable to grasp. In formal terms: I am arguing the negative. When I ask [I]"But then what? What have you actually 'refuted'?"[/I], I'm not just being contrary. I'm trying to point out to you that you need to do more logical work to connect the dots from [I]"Reason R is nonsense because of X, Y, and Z"[/I] to Primacy of Magic being the Essence of D&D. After all, even false beliefs say a lot about what people perceive to be the essence of D&D. If people are saying that 4E is not D&D because, say, they think it doesn't use ability scores, then they're absolutely wrong for thinking that, but it's still strong evidence that ability scores are a part of the Essence of D&D in their eyes -- evidence which weighs against the Primacy of Magic hypothesis. So if you don't connect the dots here, you haven't proven your case. Now, so much for the substance. The less said about the second half of your post, the better. Neither I nor anybody else here requires your invitation to speak our mind. [/QUOTE]
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