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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 7813012" data-attributes="member: 6704184"><p>Oh dear lord stow the melodrama. "I'm right" doesn't equate to "you are not entitled to your opinion". </p><p></p><p>You can think anything you want. What you are never, ever, in any public facing discussion venue, entitled to, is stating that opinion without any chance of someone telling you that you're wrong. Or calling out mistaken factual information. </p><p></p><p>It's fine that you found the powers too similar for your taste. That doesn't mean they were the same, it just means you had a higher bar for dissimilarity (especially of presentation) than the designers or people who enjoyed 4e. </p><p></p><p>If your argument has never been that the powers literally did the same things and had no distinction or uniqueness and that classes of the same role all played exactly the same, then nothing in my argument has anything to do with you, and you easily could have just not replied to me with a defensive counter-post calling me a jerk or whatever. </p><p></p><p>If your argument has been the above, then I was talking about your arguments, and I will maintain and reiterate here that you were wrong about that. Because they powers simply do not do the same things, and make the classes that are thematically similar play more differently than they have in the past. If you can't see how different <em>Come And Get It</em> is in play from <em>Blinding Barrage</em>...then you are actively choosing not to see it, or you haven't actually read the powers with any intent to understand them on even a basic level. It's genuinely as simple as that. There is no negative feeling here, it's just a matter of what the actual game mechanics in question <em>do in the game</em>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 7813012, member: 6704184"] Oh dear lord stow the melodrama. "I'm right" doesn't equate to "you are not entitled to your opinion". You can think anything you want. What you are never, ever, in any public facing discussion venue, entitled to, is stating that opinion without any chance of someone telling you that you're wrong. Or calling out mistaken factual information. It's fine that you found the powers too similar for your taste. That doesn't mean they were the same, it just means you had a higher bar for dissimilarity (especially of presentation) than the designers or people who enjoyed 4e. If your argument has never been that the powers literally did the same things and had no distinction or uniqueness and that classes of the same role all played exactly the same, then nothing in my argument has anything to do with you, and you easily could have just not replied to me with a defensive counter-post calling me a jerk or whatever. If your argument has been the above, then I was talking about your arguments, and I will maintain and reiterate here that you were wrong about that. Because they powers simply do not do the same things, and make the classes that are thematically similar play more differently than they have in the past. If you can't see how different [I]Come And Get It[/I] is in play from [I]Blinding Barrage[/I]...then you are actively choosing not to see it, or you haven't actually read the powers with any intent to understand them on even a basic level. It's genuinely as simple as that. There is no negative feeling here, it's just a matter of what the actual game mechanics in question [I]do in the game[/I]. [/QUOTE]
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