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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 7814089" data-attributes="member: 6704184"><p>Oh I absolutely meant it that way. 5e, AFAICT, is more than half a successful foray into applying all of the crucial parts of 4e with a presentation that makes happy those who didn’t like 4e, both those who can tell you quite clearly why and those who have trouble articulating exactly why. </p><p></p><p>In that regard (and that regard only) I’d say it’s the best edition of dnd. It can feel like playing dnd no matter what dnd you want it to feel like, as long as you go into it recognizing that your own biases play a role in how a game feels. Even without considering that factor, it’s my (very close) second favorite edition. </p><p></p><p>Hell, I’ll be a heretic here and say that 4e and 5e are the only editions that I’d consider “good games” without the aid of nostalgia to tip the scales. I enjoyed playing 2e, but I’d not call it a good game the standard of TTRPGaming right now. 5e? Good by nearly any standard. </p><p></p><p>Even by balance standards, though I know you disagree with me there. </p><p></p><p>In order to not support RP, it would have to make RP difficult even for people who enjoyed the game and dove fully into it for several years. It didn’t. </p><p></p><p>So, it had some barriers, and I <em>suspect</em> that these have to do with having a presentation people consciously and/or subconsciously associate with video games and wargames and other games that don’t involve RP, but the game has a ton of elements that support and encourage RP. What you’re describing is those elements not doing the job for you, which is different from the game not having those elements. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Seafood pizza is top notch, and I really wish I lived in a town that had literally any of it anywhere within an hour’s drive. </p><p></p><p>I gotta pass over the Sierra Nevadas to get seafood on my pizza. </p><p></p><p>But when I visit family on the coast, or go to the south, oh man it’s on. </p><p></p><p>Spicy Cajun shrimp and gator pizza is seriously out of this world amazingly good.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 7814089, member: 6704184"] Oh I absolutely meant it that way. 5e, AFAICT, is more than half a successful foray into applying all of the crucial parts of 4e with a presentation that makes happy those who didn’t like 4e, both those who can tell you quite clearly why and those who have trouble articulating exactly why. In that regard (and that regard only) I’d say it’s the best edition of dnd. It can feel like playing dnd no matter what dnd you want it to feel like, as long as you go into it recognizing that your own biases play a role in how a game feels. Even without considering that factor, it’s my (very close) second favorite edition. Hell, I’ll be a heretic here and say that 4e and 5e are the only editions that I’d consider “good games” without the aid of nostalgia to tip the scales. I enjoyed playing 2e, but I’d not call it a good game the standard of TTRPGaming right now. 5e? Good by nearly any standard. Even by balance standards, though I know you disagree with me there. In order to not support RP, it would have to make RP difficult even for people who enjoyed the game and dove fully into it for several years. It didn’t. So, it had some barriers, and I [I]suspect[/I] that these have to do with having a presentation people consciously and/or subconsciously associate with video games and wargames and other games that don’t involve RP, but the game has a ton of elements that support and encourage RP. What you’re describing is those elements not doing the job for you, which is different from the game not having those elements. Seafood pizza is top notch, and I really wish I lived in a town that had literally any of it anywhere within an hour’s drive. I gotta pass over the Sierra Nevadas to get seafood on my pizza. But when I visit family on the coast, or go to the south, oh man it’s on. Spicy Cajun shrimp and gator pizza is seriously out of this world amazingly good. [/QUOTE]
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